Dr_Pangloss Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Won't be so much a charge as a 'limp' into the playoffs and then embarrassment in the semis, and that's as good as this season will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I mean, I agree that his football is outdated...but it got him promoted just a year ago, and also a year before that. It's not like this happened decades ago. So as much as I don't like it, it's proof that it can work however unlikely it may seem. I understand the results based logic of what you're saying Keyblade, but I honestly think that coaching in the Championship has improved dramatically with the introduction of more foreign coaches, and the willingness of British coaches to take the new ideas and tactics on board. It may only have been a couple of years since Bruce took Hull up through the playoffs, but things have moved onwards and upwards considerably in that short space of time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If we get anywhere near the playoffs i'll eat my hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, HAL said: And how many of them look better when we play with some kind of a plan I would be second guessing Hal....you would have to ask the man himself. I would guess that even a parks manager would have a plan.....its whether the plan delivers a win is probably the crucial question. I guess if a plan is not working it could be disguised as not having one in the first place. we all want wins mate......and nothing else will do......and furthermore its the Kernel of everything we all talk about, relating to us getting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-struggle-achieve-automatic-13563087 Quote Aston Villa will struggle to achieve automatic promotion says former midfielder Aston Villa’s only chance of promotion is through the play-offs this season. That’s the verdict of pundit and ex-Villa ace Paul Merson who feels Villa will struggle to make the top-two this term. Writing in The Daily Star, Merson claimed Villa also need to change their formation to bring the best out of captain John Terry. “Aston Villa were always going to be under pressure this season and I think the best they can hope for is the play-offs,” he wrote. “I don’t see that a whole lot has changed there since last season, which is a worry, and they might need to change the system. “I think they need to play three at the back with John Terry there. He has great experience but there are some quick players in that league. “They need to play a three to free John up to control that defence and mop things up when it all breaks down. “I would love to see them do well but I can’t see them winning that division. “I think the best they can hope for is a play-off place.” Villa have taken five points from their opening five games. It’s the same return as last season under Roberto Di Matteo who was sacked after 12 games. Edited September 2, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 No automatic promotion will be a failure for everyone involved with club, especially Bruce. Those involved in our incoming transfers should be sacked aswell if we don't make it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 7 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-struggle-achieve-automatic-13563087 Haven't we tried that already and it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I don't think there will be a run away leader this year, i think it will be close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, TRO said: Haven't we tried that already and it didn't work. True, I've always said I liked the idea of that system. However, I don't trust Bruce with it. He is the type to pick the right formation with the wrong players, in the wrong places. As shown time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: True, I've always said I liked the idea of that system. However, I don't trust Bruce with it. He is the type to pick the right formation with the wrong players, in the wrong places. As shown time and time again. 11 players 1 goalkeeper 4 traditional defenders.....2 x Cb 2 x FB apart from last week i think we can all agree on that.......thats what he does. -------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 players left one winger one holding midfielder one attacking midfielder one striker he has done all of that in nearly every game. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- that leaves 2 players to argue about how much Steve Bruce has mucked this team up. over to you......JV this is a general comment. Edited September 2, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 21 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: True, I've always said I liked the idea of that system. However, I don't trust Bruce with it. He is the type to pick the right formation with the wrong players, in the wrong places. As shown time and time again. Agree mate. I think the big issue is the lack of options at CB aswell. But i think Hogan and Davis are made for each other, so something like this could work imo. Chester RDL Terry Bree Taylor Whelan Onomah Hurihane Davis Hogan Imo, the one big benefit of 3 at the back is the ability to go 2 up top. Sadly i think Bruce would just pack in another DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 12 hours ago, av1 said: Agree mate. I think the big issue is the lack of options at CB aswell. But i think Hogan and Davis are made for each other, so something like this could work imo. Chester RDL Terry Bree Taylor Whelan Onomah Hurihane Davis Hogan Imo, the one big benefit of 3 at the back is the ability to go 2 up top. Sadly i think Bruce would just pack in another DM. When i see tactics like this i always worry we will get over run in midfield esp the way bruce has us set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-finish-mid-table-13581618 Quote Aston Villa are set for another mid-table finish, according to a so-called super computer. Steve Bruce's men are pushing for promotion this season but are set to struggle, predictions have revealed. It's even worse for Birmingham City, though, who will finish in the bottom three, the table suggest. Quote PREDICTED LEAGUE TABLE OUTCOME 1. WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 2. Hull City 3. Cardiff City 4. Leeds United 5. Middlesbrough 6. Fulham 7. Ipswich Town 8. Reading 9. Preston North End 10. Sheffield Wednesday 11. ASTON VILLA 12. Sheffield United 13. Norwich City 14. Derby County 15. Sunderland 16. Nottingham Forest 17. Brentford 18. QPR 19. Bristol City 20. Barnsley 21. Millwall 22. BIRMINGHAM CITY 23. Bolton Wanderers 24. Burton Albion Edited September 6, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 What a embarrassing article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 It actually seems quite a realistic prediction table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Zatman said: It actually seems quite a realistic prediction table They are basing it on a few games. Can cardiff maintain this run? Can ipswich? There is no way blose are going down and i cant see Sheffield United finishing so high especially over the likes of nottingham forest. I would be very suprised if we finish 11th. If we do this season would have been a complete disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 On 9/4/2017 at 07:40, Demitri_C said: When i see tactics like this i always worry we will get over run in midfield esp the way bruce has us set up! I worry about getting overrun when the players don't perform or do their jobs. tactics can only take you so far......players have to do the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 On 9/1/2017 at 18:01, villabromsgrove said: I understand the results based logic of what you're saying Keyblade, but I honestly think that coaching in the Championship has improved dramatically with the introduction of more foreign coaches, and the willingness of British coaches to take the new ideas and tactics on board. It may only have been a couple of years since Bruce took Hull up through the playoffs, but things have moved onwards and upwards considerably in that short space of time. Is that why Cardiff and Ipswich occupy the top 2 places with Dinasaur managers, for the want of a better word.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 46 minutes ago, TRO said: I worry about getting overrun when the players don't perform or do their jobs. tactics can only take you so far......players have to do the business. Which players do you feel aren't performing as they should be? Furthermore what are you basing this "performance level" expectation on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, TRO said: I worry about getting overrun when the players don't perform or do their jobs. tactics can only take you so far......players have to do the business. Not sure i agree with this. What players are you referring to in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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