HanoiVillan Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Football management is the only profession in the world that you can be so bad and still get a job Nah, political punditry is far far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 So after first Woy to Palace and then Moyes to Everton a while back, today we have: Allardyce to Everton along with Sammy Lee. Pardew and Carver to West Brom. A jolly good season for Proper Football Men™ that Know The League™ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Yet the media dont criticize these appointments blocking young English managers getting jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Once Everton appoints Sam Allardyce there will be 9 British managers in the Premier League including all of the bottom 7, none in the top 6. Average age: 53. Major trophies between them: 0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Can see Mark Hughes being the next to walk the plank. Would be amusing if Stoke re-appointed Pulis. Shaqiri at left back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Posted this in the West Brom thread, should have put it here... Last 12 yrs merry-go-round: Palace: Pulis, Pardew, Allardyce, Hodgson WBA: Hodgson, Pulis, Pardew West Ham: Pardew, Allardyce, Moyes Newcastle: Allardyce, Pardew Everton: Moyes, Allardyce Fulham: Hodgson, Hughes Sunderland: Allardyce, Moyes Stoke: Pulis, Hughes Blackburn: Hughes, Allardyce Can't be bothered checking how many trophies have been won by the above, but it must be pretty close to zero? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Except Ferguson I think there has only been 3 British managers that have won trophies since about 2003 that is McLaren, McLeish and Arry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 How do you go from courting Silva to hiring Allardyce whilst also considering MoN. 3 completely different managers, screams desperation and lack of clear strategy to me. Can't see Allardyce working out well, probably won't take them down but doesn't seem the right cultural fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: How do you go from courting Silva to hiring Allardyce whilst also considering MoN. 3 completely different managers, screams desperation and lack of clear strategy to me. Aye, desperation and clueless owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 30, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: How do you go from courting Silva to hiring Allardyce whilst also considering MoN. 3 completely different managers, screams desperation and lack of clear strategy to me. Can't see Allardyce working out well, probably won't take them down but doesn't seem the right cultural fit. Reminds me of us under Lerner. Going for Martinez and ending up with McCleish 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, VillaChris said: Can see Mark Hughes being the next to walk the plank. Would be amusing if Stoke re-appointed Pulis. Shaqiri at left back.... If Bruce took us up I would be happy to take Hughes, a solid mid table manager is what we need once we return when that would be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 We should've got him in 2011. Might've down a smaller scale job version of MON e.g. just about keeping us in the top half as he's shown on limited budgets he can produce competitive teams. Its when he spends big money on likes of Imbula and berahino it all falls apart. He's stayed too long at Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 I was convinced he was coming to Villa. He's left Fulham (i think) and we were in the market for a manager. Surprised it never happened 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Xela said: I was convinced he was coming to Villa. He's left Fulham (i think) and we were in the market for a manager. Surprised it never happened Big Eck was the better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Xela said: I was convinced he was coming to Villa. He's left Fulham (i think) and we were in the market for a manager. Surprised it never happened I think that was the plan but then with the outrage caused it put lerner off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 1, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I think that was the plan but then with the outrage caused it put lerner off I thought the outrage was aimed at the possible appointment of mcclaren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 On 30/11/2017 at 08:16, Demitri_C said: If Bruce took us up I would be happy to take Hughes, a solid mid table manager is what we need once we return when that would be Why though? Why trade in a mid-to-low PL manager with another mid-to-low PL manager? Hughes hasn't done anything of note, had a couple of decent league placings with Blackburn but someone always has to be the best of the rest in the PL and by and large it's up for grabs each season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Shropshire Lad said: I thought the outrage was aimed at the possible appointment of mcclaren? Not from the fans from fulham and the media 40 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Why though? Why trade in a mid-to-low PL manager with another mid-to-low PL manager? Hughes hasn't done anything of note, had a couple of decent league placings with Blackburn but someone always has to be the best of the rest in the PL and by and large it's up for grabs each season I think Hughes certainly is not at the same level as Bruce at premier league level. Hughes usually takes his team to midtable safe from relegation as with Bruce he has a history of having teams on the verge of relegation. I think Hughes is a decent manager to be honest Obviously my first choice would be Wagner though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Hughes be the slightly better manager but prob not that much of an upgrade for Xia or the fans liking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 1, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: Hughes be the slightly better manager but prob not that much of an upgrade for Xia or the fans liking Agreed. I wouldn't be totally against him, but only if Xia was happy to be ruthless, employ him for a season or two until he hits his ceiling and then get rid for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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