Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Tomaszk said: Just don't be making him a scapegoat now. What do you think you’re reading? i said he had a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Better than last week but still not reaching the heights of his 45 mins vs Forest. Jedinak back in asap would improve us. Why change a winning team ? Five on Trot. Think first time since we won five on Trot since 17 yr old Barry, mellberg and alpay in three man defence in 1998 under Gregory Edited January 31, 2018 by Villan4Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Villan4Life said: Why change a winning team ? Five on Trot. Think first time since we won five on Trot since 17 yr old Barry, mellberg and alpay in 1998 under Gregory We changed a winning team two (and a half) games in to that run. By your logic we’d still be playing Whelan at DM and Elphick at CB (instead of Terry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: What do you think you’re reading? Some pretty pretentious stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: Some pretty pretentious stuff. What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: We changed a winning team two (and a half) games in to that run. By your logic we’d still be playing Whelan at DM and Elphick at CB (instead of Terry) Come on we have looked good with Thor as defensive mid even you can see that surely? he has a lot more energy than likes of Jedi and whelan and in this system where likes of jack, Adomah and snodgrass bomb forward and so does Conor it’s looking promising bit of credit to him credit when due rather than moaning you would prefer jedinak or whelan huh? We won looks more solid with him in even Stevie wonder could see that Edited January 31, 2018 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Villan4Life said: Come on we have looked good with Thor as defensive mid even you can see that surely? he has a lot more energy than likes of Jedi and whelan and in this system where likes of jack, Adomah and snodgrass bomb forward and so does Conor it’s looking promising bit if credit to him rather than moaning you would prefer jedinak or whelan huh? We won looks more solid with him in even Stevie wonder could see that We’ve looked very good. I’ve never said otherwise. He does have a lot of energy. I have given him credit. I don’t quite agree that we look more solid with him in the team, but I think we’re more or less in agreement here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I disagree completely. Youre talking like we couldn’t win a game before BB started playing. We’ve won 13 games this season without BB playing that role. How on earth did we manage it? Bjarnason doesn’t = an entire team. Of course we’ve won games without him ffs However, we’re currently looking a much better side that at any other point of the season. It’s massively down to having mobility in the middle of the park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) . Edited January 31, 2018 by bobzy Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, bobzy said: Bjarnason doesn’t = an entire team. Of course we’ve won games without him ffs However, we’re currently looking a much better side that at any other point of the season. It’s massively down to having mobility in the middle of the park. Comment so good you said it twice fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: Bjarnason doesn’t = an entire team. Of course we’ve won games without him ffs Exactly my point. 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: However, we’re currently looking a much better side that at any other point of the season. It’s massively down to having mobility in the middle of the park. This is the bit I don’t agree with. We had ONE of our best performances of the season with him playing. Ironically the game where I don’t think he was actually that good. Tonight certainly wasn’t us playing better than at any other point this season. We've played well a fair few times this season without him in the team. I don’t buy this narrative that we’re suddenly playing brilliantly because of BB. He was very good against Forest, he was average vs Barnsley and he was good tonight. I think people are exaggerating his performances. That’s all. Edited January 31, 2018 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Exactly my point. This is the bit I don’t agree with. We had ONE of our best performances of the season with him playing. Ironically the game where I don’t think he was actually that good. Tonight certainly wasn’t us playing better than at any other point this season. We've played well a fair few times this season without him in the team. I don’t buy this narrative that we’re suddenly playing brilliantly because of BB. He was very good against Forest, he was average vs Barnsley and he was good tonight. I think people are exaggerating his performances. That’s all. They really aren’t - but it’s quite hard to shift from calling a player utter shit in very recent times, so I understand that. And I didn’t mean performances in terms of one-off games - this as a run. We look far better than at any other point. I’m not going into games thinking “we might nick a draw here” - everything looks winnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 31, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Jedinak back in asap would improve us. 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Because he's a far better player. Sorry but those two comments are just nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, bobzy said: They really aren’t - but it’s quite hard to shift from calling a player utter shit in very recent times, so I understand that. And I didn’t mean performances in terms of one-off games - this as a run. We look far better than at any other point. I’m not going into games thinking “we might nick a draw here” - everything looks winnable. I disagree with a lot of this but we’re going round in circles so we’ll agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, striker said: Sorry but those two comments are just nonsense. Cool. Opinions and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I'm with Stevo. I thought he was ok tonight but mentally he isn't in the same league as Jedinak and he lacks the physicality too, obviously. I think we miss Jedi from set pieces as much as anything and he's just better at breaking up play. Jedi would come back in for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I'm with Stevo. I thought he was ok tonight but mentally he isn't in the same league as Jedinak and he lacks the physicality too, obviously. I think we miss Jedi from set pieces as much as anything and he's just better at breaking up play. Jedi would come back in for me. Yeah I’d go with something like this. He did a decent job today - nothing special but showed plenty of energy which he’ll always give you. I still feel that Jedinak will come back into the team in time. Wouldn’t be making the change just yet though and I actually think games like Burton and Blues at home may suit Bjarnasson more than Jedinak as we’ll be on the front foot. Out of interest, does anybody know if he’s played a defensive midfield role before these last few games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 31, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Cool. Opinions and all that. Yeah mate no worries. I just feel that if the manager wanted Jedinak back due to Jedinak being a better player and improving the team he would have dropped Bjarnson as he did with Elphick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thought barney did well last night and fair play to him- he knows he has to perform with players waiting for the chance and he did enough last night to keep his place for now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thought he was decent in the second half. He doesn't really have any similar qualities to Jedinak or Whelan which in a way is good because it means we have options. I think if you ranked all of our 'DM' type players you'd find that Jedinak is the best defensively, Birkir the best with the ball (albeit still not great) and getting forward and Whelan is just a mash of both. I don't think he deserves to be dropped but I am all for rotating players depending on the opposition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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