AndyM3000 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, Rodders said: USA game aside I thought we actually played and competed well this tournament? Would you say Villa did well if we beat Charlton, Huddersfield, Luton and Watford but then got knocked out the FA Cup by Brighton? I wouldn't. England should be playing well, it's like a Champions League team vs a Championship team for the first 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I would have sacked him the day before the WC but the team had an excellent tournament overall, getting knocked out by the tournament favourites in a game England probably deserved to win. The football was much more positive overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: Would you say Villa did well if we beat Charlton, Huddersfield, Luton and Watford but then got knocked out the FA Cup by Brighton? I wouldn't. England should be playing well, it's like a Champions League team vs a Championship team for the first 4 games. It's more like being knocked out by Man City though isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: It's more like being knocked out by Man City though isn't it. Only if we're Liverpool though. This is getting a bit convoluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's more like being knocked out by Man City though isn't it. England are more than a match for France if they are set up correctly. Giroud/Mbappe/Griezmann/Dembele compared to Kane/Grealish/Foden/Saka, there's not much in it. I'd say France are a bit better, I also think Brighton are a bit better than us just in case you disagree with that. Either way, England and Southgate have failed at the first real challenge every tournament. They only just got by Colombia in 2018 and Denmark last summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Only if we're Liverpool though. This is getting a bit convoluted. I'd put us more like Tottenham, a big side that win lots of matches but haven't won any silverware for donkey's years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, AndyM3000 said: England are more than a match for France if they are set up correctly. Giroud/Mbappe/Griezmann/Dembele compared to Kane/Grealish/Foden/Saka, there's not much in it. I'd say France are a bit better, I also think Brighton are a bit better than us just in case you disagree with that. Either way, England and Southgate have failed at the first real challenge every tournament. They only just got by Colombia in 2018 and Denmark last summer. There wasn't much in the game either though. If 'France are a bit better', but we lose having played as well as them if not slightly better but missing some big chances, is that not roughly what we might expect to happen in an average meeting between the sides? I guess that if your criteria is 'did we or did we not beat the first European/S American side we met in the knockout rounds' then we did not, but I think if we allow some shades of grey we can see there may be better and worse ways to be knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 hours ago, rbcuk said: Officially announced he’s staying with his backroom staff Didn’t want to win the Euro’s anyway, it’s a Mickey Mouse cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Depressing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Ho hum. Settled for mediocrity and hope that we continue to get favourable draws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 14/12/2022 at 20:27, tonyh29 said: Sounds like he is staying on Still , What’s a few more years of hurt when we’ve waited this long First on VT to call Emery and now first to call Southgate where’s my ITK badge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12771474/england-did-not-have-a-good-world-cup-and-any-manager-could-have-matched-gareth-southgates-results-says-jamie-redknapp Finally someone in the media calls him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunarsea Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Tom13 said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12771474/england-did-not-have-a-good-world-cup-and-any-manager-could-have-matched-gareth-southgates-results-says-jamie-redknapp Finally someone in the media calls him out When you are calling Jaime Redknapp to be your voice of reason, it's probably time to give up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Guardiola said Phillips is still in no condition to play and won't be available for a few weeks Yet he got brought to the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 20 hours ago, Zatman said: Guardiola said Phillips is still in no condition to play and won't be available for a few weeks Yet he got brought to the World Cup Not just that but he’s overweight Southgate is a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted December 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 20/12/2022 at 10:36, Tom13 said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12771474/england-did-not-have-a-good-world-cup-and-any-manager-could-have-matched-gareth-southgates-results-says-jamie-redknapp Finally someone in the media calls him out Someone's daddy wants the job I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) Hilarious re Phillips. Southgate just had to have him because he is a city player. What Pep said there is a dig at Southgate, which is brilliant. Although, saying that, it depends how crazy Phillips went after the tournament. Could be that he wasn’t below 10% body fat after the tourney only. Edited December 24, 2022 by Tayls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I took that comment by Pep as a dig at Southgate too (which was brilliant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 20/12/2022 at 12:36, Tom13 said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12771474/england-did-not-have-a-good-world-cup-and-any-manager-could-have-matched-gareth-southgates-results-says-jamie-redknapp Finally someone in the media calls him out Quote It didn't work out for Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa, but any of these could have done as good a job as Southgate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, a-k said: Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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