Eastie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, TRO said: Is your real name "Rip van Winkle" No it's rumpelskiltskin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Villa Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 It's depressing. What do we have to look forward to? More of the same depressing, boring tactics. Plus, the endless list of post-game excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I just think Bruce's methods are outdated. We have nothing more than extreme short term thinking at the club, most likely driven by Wyness, and this is exactly what Bruce contributes towards. Successful clubs are driven by a consistent vision of how they want to play and what sort of manager is required to enable this continuously. Chopping and changing players and managers each year is obviously causing us significant issues, but the managers we bring in are so different each time it takes the piss. In terms of Bruce, he will leave us with no foundations in place for the next manager to work with. I am all for binning him off and then shifting toward a model where we look for managers who like to play the same sort of football, and the sort of football that will give us some identity. We are one of the biggest, and financially sound, clubs in the league so we should have no issues signing players that fit our football mantra, regardless of the manager. The scatter gun approach that Bruce takes when signing players, and even picking teams, is ridiculous. Got to go for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Two people in my staff-room of ten, both fellow Villans, think he should stay. So perhaps the notion that he needs to go isn't as widespread as we thought... In my experience, VT cannot be taken as a measure of the overall fan bases views and opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: In my experience, VT cannot be taken as a measure of the overall fan bases views and opinions. I think that is fair comment. I must say, the comments i hear in the field are one of frustration, but not too many calling for his head.......criticism yes, but not quite guillotine yet. Edited September 13, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: In my experience, VT cannot be taken as a measure of the overall fan bases views and opinions. I find generally people post more when they are angry , not just here but on most forums even tripadvisor . When things are going well this is a much quieter place . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, TRO said: I must say, the comments i hear in the field are one of frustration, but not too many calling for his head.......criticism yes, but not quite guillotine yet. In the field ? Are you a sheep farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Eastie said: In the field ? Are you a sheep farmer Its a term, you tinker other than on the internet. ps Sheep ******* more like. Edited September 13, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 It getting harder and harder to defend him. Our from has not improved at all and we are looking at midtable at best. Its no beyond the realms of possibility that Bruce could turn things around. The return of Kodija should result in goals and a few wins could provide the platform for a run at the playoffs. However he has to be close to running out of time. While I don't normally advocate early season sackings, I do hope the club have at least begun lining up possible replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, Villastine said: It getting harder and harder to defend him. Our from has not improved at all and we are looking at midtable at best. Its no beyond the realms of possibility that Bruce could turn things around. The return of Kodija should result in goals and a few wins could provide the platform for a run at the playoffs. However he has to be close to running out of time. While I don't normally advocate early season sackings, I do hope the club have at least begun lining up possible replacements. for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, TRO said: Its a term, you tinker other than on the internet. ps Sheep ******* more like. You old rascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, tomaspg said: i recon his days are over and tony is finalzing the deal for a new manager, hes being alot more quieter than usual. or atleast thats what im hoping. I see what you did there.... :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Eastie said: You old rascal desperate times, require desperate measures. ewe know what I mean. Edited September 13, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Farlz said: Anyone who thought he'd be sacked before Barnsley were deluding themselves. Almost as deluded as the people advising Xia who thought Steve Bruce just needed a preseason to get us out this division. The same people who are now sitting around watching us drop points praying it's going to all click and fall into place when were consistently playing like garbage. Edited September 13, 2017 by AshVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 We weren't against 10 men for an hour !! Fake News !! We were against 10 men for the whole game so really one might expect the " improvement " some noticed. It was nothing of the sort IMO - it was still abundantly clear which of the two sides had been coached to actually play football, and given Boro are nothing to shout about as regards Away form, I thought it was poor for the most part, and certainly a million miles away from Table Topping Form. One good thing we DID see again - once he - very belatedly- actually took the shackles off tactically and made the corresponding change in personnel we played ok. Certainly enough to keep us awake which made a nice change. It wasn't a passing game but it was at least decent front foot attacking football in parts. Exactly what ought to have been happening for a Year now. This is the issue with him. He's never going to get us playing the way a lot of sides do now with the " pass and move" idea - but that doesn't and never has mattered. What he could've/ should've done ( to use his favourite expressions ) is simply ditch the DM more often, play enough creative players and encourage them forward not back, and try to score as many as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Almost as deluded as the people advising Xia who thought Steve Bruce just needed a preseason to get us out this division. Well that is a bit disingenuous. It was just one of the factors some folk thought was reasonable thing to claim as most of football recognises it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, terrytini said: We weren't against 10 men for an hour !! Fake News !! We were against 10 men for the whole game so really one might expect the " improvement " some noticed. It was nothing of the sort IMO - it was still abundantly clear which of the two sides had been coached to actually play football, and given Boro are nothing to shout about as regards Away form, I thought it was poor for the most part, and certainly a million miles away from Table Topping Form. One good thing we DID see again - once he - very belatedly- actually took the shackles off tactically and made the corresponding change in personnel we played ok. Certainly enough to keep us awake which made a nice change. It wasn't a passing game but it was at least decent front foot attacking football in parts. Exactly what ought to have been happening for a Year now. This is the issue with him. He's never going to get us playing the way a lot of sides do now with the " pass and move" idea - but that doesn't and never has mattered. What he could've/ should've done ( to use his favourite expressions ) is simply ditch the DM more often, play enough creative players and encourage them forward not back, and try to score as many as possible. I am beginning to concede that as fair comment.i am not sure throwing abnormal amount of numbers ( of players)at any dep't is right.....I am equally uncomfortable of the notion of ditching DM's as if they were a nuisance in the first place.....I am all for ditching a poor DM but a good one for me is valuable/crucial.....who is going to win the ball?.....is it a bolt on request to any player when it suits? I like to see a team with a specialist. Where I think you was right and i was wrong.....He clearly switched a dour boring containing game of 4-5-1 against 10 men.....to a swashbuckling event committed to attack even though it was a bit predictable still and we failed to score. I am as keen as the next man to see us committed to winning games as opposed to being frightened rabbits.....we will just have to see how it unfolds. Edited September 13, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, bobzy said: Bit of a strange post. Whilst scoring goals is undoubtedly our problem, I'm not sure you can expect too much from those named? Snodgrass has been here for... 2 games? How much has he played? Davis hasn't scored a career goal. Green has maybe 1. Kodjia hasn't played this season. Hourihane is (or was) joint top scorer in the league. So basically, he hasn't got Hogan or Adomah scoring. My point is that these are very good attacking players for this level. And I'm not saying every one of those players should be scoring every game, some of them are very good facilitators...for example, Adomah and Hourihane had 22 assists between them last season. Hogan had 15 goals by January last season. The point is, with these players at his disposal, somebody should be scoring. 7 goals in 7 games is simply unacceptable with these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2017 They aren't going to sack him today are they? How sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 They will give him until the end of the month I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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