nick76 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Cant make up my mind about appointing him. People say this is going to split the fan base, I think for some like me it splits how we feel. I hate to say this of myself and it's not my normal self but what Villa and football does to us. If he struggles early on i'll probably be on his back and the opposite if he's successful. This appointment is going bring out those extremes. Risky move by the club but as they aren't as close as us and given the other candidates is a logical choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: We've won more than one game in our last 50 league matches haven't we? Only a couple more, mind. Initially did last 24 home league games - won 1. Last 26 away league games – won 0. After posting thought easier to just add them so you are right - won 3. Corrected it. The point still stands though. Edited October 12, 2016 by Gary Thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 36 minutes ago, Kingman said: Wow, after viewing several forums it appears this appointment has split the fan base around 60/40 and that will no doubt turn very nasty when the going gets tough. Although i think he will get us up within 2 years, I think any appointment that has the potential to cause mass unrest and split the fan base on a large volume is not a healthy one. Good Luck Steve, You're gonna need it! You are so right- if he does not hit the ground sprinting like crazy, just you watch it turn nasty. Doomed appointment and I just cannot understand why the club have chosen to take on a potential football and PR disaster. IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Disappointing but inevitable appointment. Hopefully he can get us into the playoffs and then when we are 3-0 up in the final Dr X. can walk down to the dugout on the 85th minute mark, sack him and then get a proper manager in for the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 For the past few seasons, one of the main sore points for the club has been the manager's position. A lot of people here are saying that even if we get promoted, we should ditch him for a more "glamorous" manager. I don't agree with this, as I wouldn't want to see Villa go back to square one. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, if it aint broke, don't fix it.... yada yada yada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2016 For anyone who doesn't understand why he has been appointed - Bruce's 4 promotions say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted October 12, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2016 So later this morning old potato head will become Steve Bruce as he is anointed as the latest new manager of Villa. It was never going to be a universally popular decision, which decision ever is, but personally I think it makes a lot of sense. When RDM finally went Bruce was the name that came most immediately to mind. Granted perhaps for the 'wrong' reasons in the eyes of some but there were logical reasons. I know a safe pair of hands isn't very appealing, I know it doesn't offer a lot of hope but right now a safe pair of hands is just what we bloody need. I was briefly seduced by the whispering a of Wagner, although in hindsight more because of his association with Klopp than his own achievements. He may well go on to be a raging success in his own right but he may well be the next AVB. Either way he would have needed time and I'm not sure that would have been given by the fans or that it is really .available to the club for many reasons but that is another thread. Right now we need a manager to get results immediately, Bruce is about as a proven manager as we could hope for in that regard. We need as a fan base to recognise the reality of that immediate and pressing priority. I completely understand why some wanted a different kind of appointment with a view to writing this season off and preparing for next but what I think this appointment shows is that the club haven't written it off just yet. Bruce will get results with these players, he will move us up the table the only questions are how many wins and how far. Bruce might not be the manager we want but right now I think he might just be the manager we need and that is an important distinction. (I'm now expecting Batman quotes or memes) One thing I think or hope this appointment will prove (the intitial reaction already does to some extent) is that the main issue we had with McLeish wasn't where he came from but where we all to a man knew he would take us. Bruce is here now or will be in an hour or so, personally I'm happy to welcome him and remain hopeful this season isn't dead just yet. Bring on Wolves! 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Jareth said: For anyone who doesn't understand why he has been appointed - Bruce's 4 promotions say hi. To be honest I think the reason he was appointed was because, 1. he was available, 2. he was seen as a "safe" option and the club didn't want to take a risk on a foreign manager that could fail just like RDM did. His track record in this league was a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 12, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, villa89 said: To be honest I think the reason he was appointed was because, 1. he was available, 2. he was seen as a "safe" option and the club didn't want to take a risk on a foreign manager that could fail just like RDM did. His track record in this league was a bonus. Him being available wasn't a factor I can assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, villa89 said: To be honest I think the reason he was appointed was because, 1. he was available, 2. he was seen as a "safe" option and the club didn't want to take a risk on a foreign manager that could fail just like RDM did. His track record in this league was a bonus. Odd, I thought our number one priority was promotion and that Bruce has more promotions from the championship than any other league manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Bruce might not be the manager we want but right now I think he might just be the manager we need and that is an important distinction I think that sums it up beautifully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jareth said: For anyone who doesn't understand why he has been appointed - Bruce's 4 promotions say hi. Followed by the relegation afterwards - say Bye!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, Dave J said: Followed by the relegation afterwards - say Bye!! I agree, let's not only write-off the recent past and the present, but also the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I find it odd that a lot of people against this appointment seem to base their argument on hypothetical situations where several things have to fall into place for it to happen. He's here to get us promoted, it's as simple as that. He's one of the most proven, successful managers we've had in at least a decade, maybe more considering the position we're in, and I don't think it's worth considering all the ifs and buts of this appointment until they actually happen. Things change in football day to day so there's no point talking about what might happen if we get promoted next year and he doesn't do well in the Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoppy1987 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: So later this morning old potato head will become Steve Bruce as he is anointed as the latest new manager of Villa. Can "old potato head" and "fist face" become terms of endearment ? Solid appointment IMO whether you like him or not. Looking forward to Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, AJ said: For the past few seasons, one of the main sore points for the club has been the manager's position. A lot of people here are saying that even if we get promoted, we should ditch him for a more "glamorous" manager. I don't agree with this, as I wouldn't want to see Villa go back to square one. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, if it aint broke, don't fix it.... yada yada yada We will be going back to square one - the season after this one even if we get promoted! Not happy with this at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, villa89 said: Disappointing but inevitable appointment. Hopefully he can get us into the playoffs and then when we are 3-0 up in the final Dr X. can walk down to the dugout on the 85th minute mark, sack him and then get a proper manager in for the premier league. Oh my... and some people seriously expect top class managers to come to Villa after seeing these kind of comments from the supporters?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 12, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, knoppy1987 said: Can "old potato head" and "fist face" become terms of endearment ? Solid appointment IMO whether you like him or not. Looking forward to Saturday. I've always quite liked him despite calling him these things, on the whole he was very respectful about Villa during his time managing the unwashed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Like RDM before him Mr Potato Head was the easy available option. If he had still been in post at Hull how many people would have been urging Dr Tony to pay whatever it takes in compensation to prize him away from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, skarroki said: I find it odd that a lot of people against this appointment seem to base their argument on hypothetical situations where several things have to fall into place for it to happen. He's here to get us promoted, it's as simple as that. He's one of the most proven, successful managers we've had in at least a decade, maybe more considering the position we're in, and I don't think it's worth considering all the ifs and buts of this appointment until they actually happen. Things change in football day to day so there's no point talking about what might happen if we get promoted next year and he doesn't do well in the Prem Really and Aston Villa become a laughing stock and a poison chalice to boot! No thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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