Popular Post TrentVilla Posted September 10, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Jareth said: And some patience please from the fans. He has bee in the job 11 months, signed more than an entire new team and we are no better than the day he arrived. Patience isn't the answer. Edit - Jareth was talking about for the new man not Bruce. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 10, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2017 7 hours ago, TRO said: Thats much how i saw it. however, we had confidence against Norwich.....if teams stand off us and lets us play, like Norwich did, we are ok.....if a team like Brentford get in our faces, we are ******. Lack of passion, desire,urgency and combative spirit. And not much idea what to do to correct it. I did say at the time the Norwich performance wasn't a meaningful barometer and so its proved. He needs to go, I think he will get Tuesday's game but anything less than a win and he is gone. Your last line sounds like you are still trying to blame the players rather than Bruce, safe to say I don't agree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2017 ... I can only see this going one way now, and I think he'll be gone in the next week. If we lose to Boro he's likely gone and I think we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post omariqy Posted September 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2017 I know people on here were arguing that we were on a good run after winning 2 of the last 3 games but I just knew after he went to 5 at the back against Bristol City that nothing had changed. I was speaking to a mate who is head of a well known clubs academy and knows Villa well. After talking about how good Andre Green is we got onto Bruce. He said football has moved on so much these last few years. Bruce is way way behind. He said people like him and Harry Redknapp are purely focused wheeling and dealing and man management. They don't do formations, pattern of play, how to find space etc. Basically nothing we didn't already know. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, omariqy said: I know people on here were arguing that we were on a good run after winning 2 of the last 3 games but I just knew after he went to 5 at the back against Bristol City that nothing had changed. I was speaking to a mate who is head of a well known clubs academy and knows Villa well. After talking about how good Andre Green is we got onto Bruce. He said football has moved on so much these last few years. Bruce is way way behind. He said people like him and Harry Redknapp are purely focused wheeling and dealing and man management. They don't do formations, pattern of play, how to find space etc. Basically nothing we didn't already know. Not so sure he's much good at man management either - he certainly can't get the best out of his players . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 hours ago, thunderball said: You can say the same about Jedinak's stats. Its horrible. Can't win consistently without two players he didn't even sign. He is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Got to go and he knows it I think. Part of me thinks he's trying to get sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, sidcow said: I was a huge Bruce supporter for a long time and I still believe the anti Bruce brigade were wrong in terms of the immediate reaction. On paper he was absolutely the right appointment Sorry but you are absolutely wrong - you didn't see it from day one but many others did. He is a throwback to an earlier, simpler time and not at all suited to the requirements of the modern game - saying that he had done far worse than even I expected. Sherwood, RDM and Bruce - all awful appointments. There is very little chance Wyness and Round will get this right and they need to go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Jareth said: And some patience please from the fans. I said that to all the fans that were writing him off due to the same pathetic performances in a few pre- season games. My response was pre season games mean nothing. I will judge him after 5 games at least. Well we've had 6 games now and never did I imagine we would look as bad as we do. Time for patience is over. The situation is getting quite serious. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, VillaCas said: Sorry but you are absolutely wrong - you didn't see it from day one but many others did. He is a throwback to an earlier, simpler time and not at all suited to the requirements of the modern game - saying that he had done far worse than even I expected. Sherwood, RDM and Bruce - all awful appointments. There is very little chance Wyness and Round will get this right and they need to go too. You do recall about 4/5 months before he joined us he had just got Hull promoted to the premier league? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted September 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2017 I'm not sure why people are debating whether he was the right appointment at the time or not. It's irrelevant. He has had his chance and blown it. (For what it's worth I wasn't over the moon with his appointment but I thought it made sense). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: You do recall about 4/5 months before he joined us he had just got Hull promoted to the premier league? This. It's nothing about football suddenly moving on. The issue is he isn't tactically astute enough to deal with being at a big fish in a small pond. We aren't going to be sneaking under the radar in this league because we've got a massive target on our backs so every game is a tactical battle that he just can't win. He'd be better served by telling the players to just go out and play. Edited September 10, 2017 by sexbelowsound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, chrisvilla4 said: Got to go and he knows it I think. Part of me thinks he's trying to get sacked. Wouldn't suprise me. Problem with modern day contracts. Rare managers resign these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 He has to go I think. This is clearly not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Jareth said: And some patience please from the fans. There's nothing quite like patiently watching us get degraded by terrible teams almost week in and week out whilst sitting 18th in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 There are lots of managers in this league doing a much better job with literally no resources. It is a major embarrassment for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I would hope news of his contract being terminated comes out today, 2 weeks to late unfortunately, but giving him yet another game to make sure he isn't the right man for the job is lunacy. Get rid now get the right man in asap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjc Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 59 minutes ago, omariqy said: I know people on here were arguing that we were on a good run after winning 2 of the last 3 games but I just knew after he went to 5 at the back against Bristol City that nothing had changed. I was speaking to a mate who is head of a well known clubs academy and knows Villa well. After talking about how good Andre Green is we got onto Bruce. He said football has moved on so much these last few years. Bruce is way way behind. He said people like him and Harry Redknapp are purely focused wheeling and dealing and man management. They don't do formations, pattern of play, how to find space etc. Basically nothing we didn't already know. I agree with the general point - how come Warnock is managing to do it though?! Whatever the reason though, agree that Bruce seems massively outdated and outthought by less well-resourced peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: You do recall about 4/5 months before he joined us he had just got Hull promoted to the premier league? I could care less what he did with Hull. You clearly thought he was a good appointment, I did not. Absolutely the wrong man for us as from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, mykeyb said: I would hope news of his contract being terminated comes out today, 2 weeks to late unfortunately, but giving him yet another game to make sure he isn't the right man for the job is lunacy. Get rid now get the right man in asap. Get rid now and I think there'd be a positive reaction on Tuesday in the team even with a caretaker in charge - the club needs a lift and Bruce needs to go - his negativity is impacting on the club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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