praisedmambo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Unfortunately, I think we should think longer term too—at the moment we have such a small chance of going up this season. I say that hoping we still can and that Wagner, Bruce or whoever will do it. We've won 4 games in 51 or something—we'd have to win 20-odd of the next 30-odd games. The turnaround would be a miracle on the level of getting Huddersfield up to first without spending any money. I bloody put a bet on us to win the Championship (14-1) and I am so demoralised. I don't know if I could take it if we had Bruce and kept this shit up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted October 7, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Bruce would just be soooooooooooooooo boring.... Nothing could be more boring than not winning every week for 5 years and the ensuing "banter" directed towards us by fans of other clubs / bookies / train companies. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Heart Wagner - Head Bruce. I think we would have more chance of promotion /playoffs with Bruce. Wagner would need to implement style/ changes where as Bruce would be more simplistic imo. Id take dull and uninspiring if it got us promoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, Villastine said: Well you can have a long term plan and continually change manager. A lot of people believe 3 years should be a managers max, something Pep follows. Watford use short term targets in their long term view. The Watford board would hire the likes of Bruce or McCarthy, fund them to get promoted and then sack them immediately. For me long term is more than 12 months. Some are saying get Bruce, he gets us up this year then we change in the summer. Bonkers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I wonder when we're likely to find out. Could be another two weeks yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, chrisvilla4 said: Heart Wagner - Head Bruce. I think we would have more chance of promotion /playoffs with Bruce. Wagner would need to implement style/ changes where as Bruce would be more simplistic imo. Id take dull and uninspiring if it got us promoted. Bruce would also need to implement style changes, both of them would as one of the issues is we do not have a style / tactical approach to the game right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The longer the wait goes on the more I will downheartedly wonder if they are allowing Clarke time to see what he can do before making a decision. Let's just hope that isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just out of interest, I've done a search on this forum for "Wagner". The first serious mention of him in connection with the job was on September 11 in the RDM thread. There was a mention last season in the context of the Championship being a league you need to know your way around since he started with a couple of defeats. Another mention was made last season when a poster said he'd take him here, and a couple of replys were made that maybe the composer would be a better fit. Now I don't know too much about football, but I suspect that if he was as good as some here seem to think, there would have been far more noise about him from last season and in the summer, especially when we'd been taken over and were looking for a new manager. The only conclusion I can draw then is that the only reason Wagner is being discussed is because his name has bern linked with us, and Huddersfield are at the top of the table after 11 games. And to think the Wagenerites want him in as a long term solution! A month ago, it looks like we didn't even know who he was!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think we have more a chance of promotion next year with Wagner and more of a chance of promotion this season with Bruce, all be it a lot less chance than we would have next season. RDM talked about a two year plan for promotion so if that is the case then Wagner is the man. If DrT goes with Bruce he is gambling more than he would be with Wagner based on the above criteria imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Godders said: the Wagenerites..... Very good. Glad you never went with "the wangers" Edited October 7, 2016 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 For the last time, it's VAGNER Louis?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 What about Ralf Rangnick, 58 and currently a Sporting Director after doing several successful jobs in Germany, including a double promotion and vast Bundesliga experience. Speaks English well as he studied at Sussex University. Surely if Dr Xia is as ambitious as he says, these type of candidates should be looked at, not just Bruce et al who we could have got under Lerner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, AvfcTheObsession said: What about Ralf Rangnick, 58 and currently a Sporting Director after doing several successful jobs in Germany, including a double promotion and vast Bundesliga experience. Speaks English well as he studied at Sussex University. Surely if Dr Xia is as ambitious as he says, these type of candidates should be looked at, not just Bruce et al who we could have got under Lerner. I think this would be a more progressive appointment than anyone mentioned thus far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I don't know what to think anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Anyone think Mancini might be an option given our current backroom staff? In particular Massimo Battara & Massimiliano Marchesi. Edited October 7, 2016 by GENTLEMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 31 minutes ago, Godders said: Just out of interest, I've done a search on this forum for "Wagner". The first serious mention of him in connection with the job was on September 11 in the RDM thread. There was a mention last season in the context of the Championship being a league you need to know your way around since he started with a couple of defeats. Another mention was made last season when a poster said he'd take him here, and a couple of replys were made that maybe the composer would be a better fit. Now I don't know too much about football, but I suspect that if he was as good as some here seem to think, there would have been far more noise about him from last season and in the summer, especially when we'd been taken over and were looking for a new manager. The only conclusion I can draw then is that the only reason Wagner is being discussed is because his name has bern linked with us, and Huddersfield are at the top of the table after 11 games. And to think the Wagenerites want him in as a long term solution! A month ago, it looks like we didn't even know who he was!! I know nothing at all about Wagner, but what I've read on here about him suggests he would be an interesting and bold appointment. I'm not sure that it would fit with the club's frankly unrealistic ambition to be in the top three in the world by a week on Wednesday or whatever it was, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Anyone think Mancini might be an option given our current backroom staff? Why Is he shit too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, hippo said: I don't know what to think anymore. I was a little like that then I had this thought, thank **** Martinez has a job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Richard said: I was a little like that then I had this thought, thank **** Martinez has a job My hovercraft is full of eels ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko#4 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 28 minutes ago, AvfcTheObsession said: What about Ralf Rangnick, 58 and currently a Sporting Director after doing several successful jobs in Germany, including a double promotion and vast Bundesliga experience. Speaks English well as he studied at Sussex University. Surely if Dr Xia is as ambitious as he says, these type of candidates should be looked at, not just Bruce et al who we could have got under Lerner. He is joint second favourite for the England job at the moment. I think he would probably bide his time and see what happens there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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