JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I don't need to see the goals. You failed to score more than the opposition. But money in the bank is still good. well you spent the money but have half as many points, so I don't see the problem. Especially when that single point is more than you picked up in your last away game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: well you spent the money but have half as many points, so I don't see the problem. Especially when that single point is more than you picked up in your last away game ...after 5 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mantis said: ...after 5 games I'm not reading much into the table at all, just stating as it is right now. Don't for one minute we will still have double your tally at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 38 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: well you spent the money but have half as many points, so I don't see the problem. Especially when that single point is more than you picked up in your last away game We do need more points. That's why we went and signed a guy who scored 19 goals in this league last season. You enjoy your bank balance this year though. Nothing like cheering on a full wallet. I'll look forward to the debut of our big money striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DCJonah said: We do need more points. That's why we went and signed a guy who scored 19 goals in this league last season. You enjoy your bank balance this year though. Nothing like cheering on a full wallet. I'll look forward to the debut of our big money striker. Thought Mcormack already made his debut, though you wouldn't have known if he was there or not when you played us. (I'm aware that wasn't his debut for you, just saying how badly that big money striker played). In the league game where we didn't play Kodjia but could have, and todays game we have scored a total of 5. So hardly a problem getting the goals without him in the team is it? 2.5 goals per game without him, compared to 1 goal per game with him. Edited September 10, 2016 by JamesBCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Thought Mcormack already made his debut, though you wouldn't have known if he was there or not when you played us. In the league game where we didn't play Kodjia but could have, and todays game we have scored a total of 5. So hardly a problem getting the goals without him in the team is it? 2.5 goals per game without him, compared to 1 goal per game with him. No you're right You're doing well for a team trying to stay in the league. We have different objectives and aims hence you have our money and we have your best striker from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 Just now, DCJonah said: No you're right You're doing well for a team trying to stay in the league. We have different objectives and aims hence you have our money and we have your best striker from last season. You appear to have our clubs aims mixed. The noises from our management and players suggest an aim for the playoffs, though the official line is mid table. However if we are in the mix for automatics (unlikely) in January, I can assure you we will spend money where necessary. We just wont do it recklessly on a player with 1 good season in their career (I really did wish Kodjia well, but remarks from you and some of the others are not giving a nice impression of Villa fans and making me start to rethink that). Spending money is no guarantee of success, I thought you would have learned that by now after your time in the Premier League, last year Derby were the big spenders and look how their Premier League season has started... oh never mind. Sheffield Wednesday also spent a fair bit last season, I'm sure they are doing well in the Prem... oops, not again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: You appear to have our clubs aims mixed. The noises from our management and players suggest an aim for the playoffs, though the official line is mid table. However if we are in the mix for automatics (unlikely) in January, I can assure you we will spend money where necessary. We just wont do it recklessly on a player with 1 good season in their career (I really did wish Kodjia well, but remarks from you and some of the others are not giving a nice impression of Villa fans and making me start to rethink that). Spending money is no guarantee of success, I thought you would have learned that by now after your time in the Premier League, last year Derby were the big spenders and look how their Premier League season has started... oh never mind. Sheffield Wednesday also spent a fair bit last season, I'm sure they are doing well in the Prem... oops, not again! Who said spending money guarantees anything? Our aim is promotion and so we're buying players to build a squad capable of it. No guarantees but we're backing our manager to match our aims and objectives. Once again, hence you have our money and we have a guy who scored 19 league goals last season. I know which I'd rather have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Welcome Jonathan, and good luck against Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 Just now, DCJonah said: Who said spending money guarantees anything? Our aim is promotion and so we're buying players to build a squad capable of it. No guarantees but we're backing our manager to match our aims and objectives. Once again, hence you have our money and we have a guy who scored 19 league goals last season. I know which I'd rather have. You keep banging on about the fact you have spent money and we haven't (although we spent circa £11m ourselves). How about a reminder that a player doing well in one season for one club is no guarantee he will at his next then? I would just like echo @GENTLEMAN's comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: You keep banging on about the fact you have spent money and we haven't (although we spent circa £11m ourselves). How about a reminder that a player doing well in one season for one club is no guarantee he will at his next then? I would just like echo @GENTLEMAN's comment. Once again who said anything about guarantees? But signing a player who did it last year gives us a better chance. And I bang on about money spent? How many times have you gone into detail to explain ho we've over spent? If you're thrilled with the money, great. I'm happy for you and your club in your fight for survival. I'm also very happy with the business that was done between the two clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Once again who said anything about guarantees? But signing a player who did it last year gives us a better chance. And I bang on about money spent? How many times have you gone into detail to explain ho we've over spent? If you're thrilled with the money, great. I'm happy for you and your club in your fight for survival. I'm also very happy with the business that was done between the two clubs. 1 time. I have given my opinion that you overspent, then after remarks suggesting that was out of bitterness I gave 1 post in detail where refer to posts at the start of the summer on our forum where posters there were saying what price they would sell him for, which was for the most part a fair bit below what you paid. Thrilled with the money? Not really, just glad that for a change we are finding a player and getting resale from them, rather than our past transfer method of buying people past best for more than their value and then seeing them leave for free after 3 years of bad performances. "fight for survival" I realise you're trying to get a rise out of me, but you're just making yourself look clueless. Needs another because your post was so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: 1 time. I have given my opinion that you overspent, then after remarks suggesting that was out of bitterness I gave 1 post in detail where refer to posts at the start of the summer on our forum where posters there were saying what price they would sell him for, which was for the most part a fair bit below what you paid. Thrilled with the money? Not really, just glad that for a change we are finding a player and getting resale from them, rather than our past transfer method of buying people past best for more than their value and then seeing them leave for free after 3 years of bad performances. "fight for survival" I realise you're trying to get a rise out of me, but you're just making yourself look clueless. Needs another because your post was so stupid. Sorry if it seems clueless. We didn't just sell our best forward to you so I haven't been on your forums to tell you how you overspent and to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Sorry if it seems clueless. We didn't just sell our best forward to you so I haven't been on your forums to tell you how you overspent and to learn I came on here to give an honest summary of our game against you and also get the opinion of your fans at the game. I didn't do this for our games against Burton, Newcastle, Norwich or Wigan because another forum I was on (I am currently taking a break because the other City fans there are extremely negative, and even were during our double winning season) has multiple members from each of those clubs, while it has very few Villa fans (2-3 I think) and none were at the game. Rotherham I wasn't at so I can't give my views of the performance so I wont be on the Rotherham forum, but next Saturday I will be on the Derby forum win, lose or draw, to trade opinions. I stuck around as a day or so later you were linked with Kodjia and I gave my honest views of him (good player, will score, offside a lot, can create chances on his own, worth about 6-8 million) I also gave my honest views when you were linked with Adomah (good player, will cause teams issues, extremely inconsistent at crossing, couldn't name a value as I haven't seen him regularly for a few years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted September 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 Thought this was the Jonathan Kodjia thread....my mistake. You know there are inboxes if two people want to rant and rave at each other for a whole page..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 I love BrizzleTalk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 3 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: At no point have I said he's not very good. No need to be bitter because I said something you didn't like about your team (even though there was nothing actually derogatory about the club) in response towards a slander of my character. Wut? I'm not even remotely bothered by that. That was days ago. Comment on the post, not the poster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2016 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Wut? I'm not even remotely bothered by that. That was days ago. Comment on the post, not the poster. Today you posted "I get it he's not very good" when I have at no point said he is not very good. Odd that you didn't say anything to the poster who called me bitter for being honest about Kodjia- double standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 Honestly mate, I don't read and respond to every post, even if it appears that way at times! I was noting the fact that your posts appear to be very negative towards him and his ability. That's how it appears to me at least. Apologies if you feel that is a slanderous statement. I have no interest in making this personal, so if you could cut that out that would be cool. Anyway, I'm looking forward to his debut. I'm hopeful he will be an important cog in the wheel. Thanks for the heads up, I'll get to judge him myself soon enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Yawn. Tomorrow please hurry up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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