Woodytom Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: If John Terry really did 'win' the Champions League for them then surely they'd have appointment him manager by now. I was just about to post that if it's true, it begs the question why he hasn't won more... Surely if he can do it on his own with lamps n drogba then with the backing of a top coach like mourinho, you'd think he'd be able to win it a few tim......... oh yeah, it's total bollocks isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2016 The biggest difference between garde and Di Matteo is Di Matteo will actually have a chance to build a team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The biggest difference between garde and Di Matteo is Di Matteo will actually have a chance to build a team. Disagree, Di Matteo has better experience and intangibles for the task on hand. Edited May 27, 2016 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Disagree, Di Matteo has better experience and intangibles for the task on hand. Probably, I guess my point was there were bigger things holding back garde than his ability. I'm sure if RDM had replaced Sherwood, for example, then we'd still be facing the Championship next season, even if it would have been with a few more points. Edited May 27, 2016 by Stevo985 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Probably, I guess my point was there were bigger things holding back garde than his ability. I'm sure if RDM had replaced Sherwood, for example, then we'd still be facing the Championship next season, even if it would have been with a few more points. Garde's man management was his biggest problem. He managed to piss off the bulk of the senior players within about 5 mins of arriving and he appointed Robert Duverne who is probably the last person you would appoint when you have a squad where morale is low. Garde dug his own hole, kept on digging and then just gave up and went to sleep in it. Total joke of a manager, his appointment doomed us. We had had a slim chance for survival that ended as soon as he left the canal+ studio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, KHV said: Garde's man management was his biggest problem. He managed to piss off the bulk of the senior players within about 5 mins of arriving and he appointed Robert Duverne who is probably the last person you would appoint when you have a squad where morale is low. Garde dug his own hole, kept on digging and then just gave up and went to sleep in it. Total joke of a manager, his appointment doomed us. We had had a slim chance for survival that ended as soon as he left the canal+ studio Hard to disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Hard to disagree with that. not for me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted May 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, KHV said: Garde's man management was his biggest problem. He managed to piss off the bulk of the senior players within about 5 mins of arriving and he appointed Robert Duverne who is probably the last person you would appoint when you have a squad where morale is low. Garde dug his own hole, kept on digging and then just gave up and went to sleep in it. Total joke of a manager, his appointment doomed us. We had had a slim chance for survival that ended as soon as he left the canal+ studio "We want our players sorting out!!" "WOAH - don't piss them off though..." Ok 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: "We want our players sorting out!!" "WOAH - don't piss them off though..." Ok I don't think it's too much of an issue that he pissed them off. He seemed to piss them off, then bottle it majorly by continuing to play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Woodytom said: I don't think it's too much of an issue that he pissed them off. He seemed to piss them off, then bottle it majorly by continuing to play them. Who did he piss off and then continue to play, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: "We want our players sorting out!!" "WOAH - don't piss them off though..." Ok Man management is not an easy task, he walked into an unhappy camp and made a monumental **** up and never recovered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2016 Drifting off topic here, compadres... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted May 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The biggest difference between garde and Di Matteo is Di Matteo will actually have a chance to build a team. Pretty much. If RDM came in when Garde did he too would have failed, just as pretty much anyone would have failed this season under Lerner. I'd happily welcome Garde back now for what it's worth. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, KHV said: Garde's man management was his biggest problem. He managed to piss off the bulk of the senior players within about 5 mins of arriving and he appointed Robert Duverne who is probably the last person you would appoint when you have a squad where morale is low. Garde dug his own hole, kept on digging and then just gave up and went to sleep in it. Total joke of a manager, his appointment doomed us. We had had a slim chance for survival that ended as soon as he left the canal+ studio 12 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Hard to disagree with that. Not really. I'm not sure I could disagree with it more. but it's off topic, so we can discuss in the Garde topic if anyone can be arsed (I'm not sure I can :D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mantis said: Pretty much. If RDM came in when Garde did he too would have failed, just as pretty much anyone would have failed this season under Lerner. I'd happily welcome Garde back now for what it's worth. Me too, managing any team we are playing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, Richard said: Me too, managing any team we are playing So would I actually - perhaps then people would see that the problem wasn't Garde per se but the conditions he was working under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 23 minutes ago, KHV said: Man management is not an easy task, he walked into an unhappy camp and made a monumental **** up and never recovered Agreed. Garde is a **** shite manager and RDM will prove to be made of much stronger stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mantis said: So would I actually - perhaps then people would see that the problem wasn't Garde per se but the conditions he was working under. So you'd have black and sherwood back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, Woodytom said: So you'd have black and sherwood back? You think all 3 worked under the same conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) The "conditions" were largely created by Sherwood. Edited May 27, 2016 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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