CVByrne Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, tinker said: 1 game a week on average at times that normally won't clash with business events. Huge car parks, 2 motorways within 2 miles, a45, a452 dual carriageways, an airport, a station that goes straight into Birmingham, within 10 minutes, new HS2 terminal 500m away, Into London within 35 minutes, a new light railway going in to further increase capacity into Birmingham, entertainment center pre built with more space to around to develop. Hotels right there on its doorstep, casino, cinema, its all there already. Its a staggering opportunity. As for worrying about drunk fans staggering around, I have been one of those and the lack of pubs around villa Park tell you a story, there's not many staggering fans left, their not our future audience. The premier league is a international competition, its watched all over the world, we stand on the edge of being in the elite group of teams, we need a ground and facilities that can attract world wide fans for their holy grail visit and make the most of them while they are there. You do make good points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 16 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16 The NEC would be absolutely perfect for a new stadium The issues are it's not in Birmingham and we're not moving anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, tinker said: You may not be too far away there, Jaguar Castle Brom is about to lose car production, there's a train station being planned there. They are only shutting down for retooling for their all electric models tho. I cant see anywhere that they are closing the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 16 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, Chr1s said: They are only shutting down for retooling for their all electric models tho. I cant see anywhere that they are closing the factory. I'm sorry to say your wrong, no new models into castle brom, biw and some sub assembly stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Just now, tinker said: I'm sorry to say your wrong, no new models into castle brom, biw and some sub assembly stuff. That's not good, last I heard they were trying to bring some of the overseas production back into the UK. As much as I would hate to profit from their demise at least some jobs could be made from it if we were to acquire the land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Quite sad at the though of moving from VP, and the acceptance of it. Villa Park is what's unique about us in a mire of Euro Bowl stadiums. I think in a decade of so, the fact its an old school authentic stadium will be a USP / visiting factor. Knock down the North Stand, make it as big as the Holte, or bigger. Use the car park, put as much prawn sandwich stations, Corp hospitality, accommodation as required. Acquire the park behind the Witton and make it as big as possible with restrictions based on the houses behind that. There's plenty of space for the 60k+ stadium. I don't understand why that need's to be away from our home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted April 16 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, PeterSw said: IF we do move, I wonder if Villa Park would be renovated into apartments etc. like Highbury was. Big difference in the locations and the market.I guess it could be, but very different type of development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbvilla909 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The NEC is terrible for driving in and out of when there's big events on. Makes the journey out of Aston feel like a breeze in comparison. Also as others have mentioned, we want a multi purpose venue, why would the NEC want us on their door step competing with them. Can we not build the north stand bigger than originally planned? Build a car park on the wheels site, Bloose ain't doing nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 39 minutes ago, pas5898 said: Quite sad at the though of moving from VP, and the acceptance of it. Villa Park is what's unique about us in a mire of Euro Bowl stadiums. I think in a decade of so, the fact its an old school authentic stadium will be a USP / visiting factor. Knock down the North Stand, make it as big as the Holte, or bigger. Use the car park, put as much prawn sandwich stations, Corp hospitality, accommodation as required. Acquire the park behind the Witton and make it as big as possible with restrictions based on the houses behind that. There's plenty of space for the 60k+ stadium. I don't understand why that need's to be away from our home. There's no where near enough space for a 60k stadium unless we buy all or most of the land / housing to the river / Witton Rd./ Aston Distressway The Doug Ellis stand would have to double in size or more, the North Stand would be bigger than the Holte and we'd need to fill the corners in. Then you need massive amounts of car parking. Its probably just about doable but its a massive ballache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 hours ago, Villarocker said: If the owners took a look at our overall situation and decided it was ultimately move stadium in order to seriously compete or they will move on themselves - would you prefer to move or stay where we are? I'd be salty about it for a while, and if we do move I do hope we still have at least a brickwork facade for the stadium. But I think the pain could be made up for if it helps us win some trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: The NEC would be absolutely perfect for a new stadium The issues are it's not in Birmingham and we're not moving anyway Honest question with no sarcasm intended. Considering the expansion of Birmingham and its growth over the last 200 years, isn't it likely that Solihull becomes Birmingham within the next few decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: The NEC would be absolutely perfect for a new stadium The issues are it's not in Birmingham and we're not moving anyway Why do we have to be on Birmingham council land? The NEC is called NEC Birmingham, and is surrounded by such features as the Birmingham Business Park, Birmingham Airport and Birmingham Intl Station. Nobody cares about Solihull. Who says we're not moving? Nobody knows that either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted April 16 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 16 17 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Considering the expansion of Birmingham and its growth over the last 200 years, isn't it likely that Solihull becomes Birmingham within the next few decades? Speaking as a Solihull resident. **** off. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 16 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16 17 minutes ago, sidcow said: Speaking as a Solihull resident. **** off. North Solihull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 16 Moderator Share Posted April 16 6 hours ago, tinker said: The NEC is the perfect location for this type of stadium. It has everything you need already there and the HS2 arriving within 5 years. The airport is in Birmingham, despite really being in solihull. Its a big move but anyone that knows that area understands the potential for it, there's not a better site in country let alone Birmingham. The problem is that the NEC group (Blackstone) already has plans in place to develop a lot of the land immediately around the NEC for housing, and there are going to be 5,000 new homes built in the immediate surrounds. Then the most obvious patch of land, the one just the other side of the M42 from the East Car Parks, is where the HS2 station will be going and the land just beyond that is a massive landfill where Birmingham has spent the last thirty years burying its rubbish - that bit would be completely unusable. So what you're left with is the plot that's next to the M6 and the junction with the A446 - which isn't a bad site at all, but loses a little bit of the convenience you'd hope to get from the NEC site - at its nearest it's almost 2.5km from NEC train station - so you'd need to get off the train and get on the planned monorail (no, really) that will link the NEC and the HS2 station, then walk the fifteen minutes or so to the stadium from the station.(unless the club provide shuttle busses). The NEC's parking would be available, but again you'd need the monorail to cross the M42 or face a long walk over a future bridge. That's all still possible and from a driving point of view, the possibility of adding links to the M42, the M6, the A446 and A452 might make it quite reasonable for drivers (although it would mean the stadium having to include substantial parking). There's plenty of room, but nothing there at the moment but fields and a bit of woodland so there's a blank canvas but a lot of work to add any life at all to the stadium and the area around it. There's a reasonable site there, but it would take an enormous amount of money to develop and there would be a lot to do in order for it not to be the very definition of soulless on non-matchdays - you'd essentially have to build a small town around it as well as provide new junctions and massive parking - all on green belt land that's always been very, very sensitive to the encroachment of the city or the NEC. On paper, it's possible and pre-HS2 it would have been a brilliant site - the proposed national stadium the NEC was going to build was to be situated right where the HS2 station is - but right now, you'd be a tiny bit isolated - separated from the NEC by a massive rail project and a motorway and there would be big objections to it. It's not the slam dunk a lot of people seem to think it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted April 16 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16 The NEC struggled with the camping and caravan show so it would struggle as it stands with the mighty Villa coming to town. I’m not against moving full stop, but where that would be to I have no idea. Something big feels like it’s brewing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 16 Moderator Share Posted April 16 3 hours ago, tinker said: The hs2 is separate to the existing station and there's another transport system being built, light rail i think. As for NEC car parks, where do you park at Villa, I'm parking at the side of a road next to a scrap yard. The other transport system is a monorail that goes over the lake - I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have the capacity for a stadium so they'd need to build something else. The NEC car parks are going to get difficult - the NEC are building homes on them and making a big play about them being the kind of homes where people won't have cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 16 Moderator Share Posted April 16 Buy the land from Witton Lane to the river - build a new stadium on it and use Villa Park while you do - there's room for both - then use the space where Villa Park is now to build the facilities that make it a benefit to the community and a place where you want to be on matchdays whilst opening up the links through to the park and Aston Hall. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 We’d lose our soul moving to the NEC area. Wouldn’t feel right one bit. Would rather us remain inner city Birmingham if we were to move . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 16 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16 There's land south of the HS2 area and South East (the otherside of the a45) that's been, developed (dug up ). Tbh the whole green belt between cov and brum is under threat with developments. There's no perfect place but villa Park is a million miles away from what we need and most of the objections raised against say the nec location, are amplified at Villa Park, no modern transport, no parking, no hotels, no space. I love the place as a fan but from a business point of view it's just not going to do it if we are really on a journey to compete at the very top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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