Captain_Townsend Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 It is all so weird why are we pausing when we have what we want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, sidcow said: Oh come off it. The Lichfield Road Dual Carriageway is virtually adjacent to the ground. There is massive industrial parks all around Villa Park, Brookvale Road is a big road used to serve Atlas Industrial Estate. And were talking about 25,000 less than Old Trafford, that's like like sticking The Hawthorns right on top of new Villa Park. And they have no mainline trains that take thousands away. This argument is nonsense as many have already said, the transport plan was accepted by the planners. They've done their calculations and were happy with it. Whatever mate, after every game it always takes an hour at least to get to the M6. On the several times I've been to Old Trafford, it's much, much easier to get away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: It is all so weird why are we pausing when we have what we want Maybe the plan is simply to delay for one season in case we get Champions League to make the most of it, then still have time to get it done for 2028? It's all clear as mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: What the Heck Hmmm. Odd this comes out THE DAY AFTER Villa talk about possibly not proceeding with the stand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: What the Heck Heck’s gamble has paid off and BCC have caved in and offered to pay to upgrade the station. Now to announce the North stand project is back on… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted December 21, 2023 Administrator Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, mikeyjavfc said: Heck’s gamble has paid off and BCC have caved in and offered to pay to upgrade the station. Now to announce the North stand project is back on… The BCC continue to not be involved in any way with the station. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, sidcow said: And they have no mainline trains that take thousands away. The tram does though and the buses are timed ready and waiting and very frequent. At VP there’s 2 stations, but not enough trains and not enough carriages and the buses don’t seem coordinated in the way they are at other grounds like Man City and United. Whether VP is embiggened or not, the public transit could be way better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidcow Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, blandy said: The tram does though and the buses are timed ready and waiting and very frequent. At VP there’s 2 stations, but not enough trains and not enough carriages and the buses don’t seem coordinated in the way they are at other grounds like Man City and United. Whether VP is embiggened or not, the public transit could be way better. 100 odd people per tram. 500-600 per train. Train every 10 minutes in each direction JUST at Aston plus trains at Witton, I'm not sure how frequent they are. That's an enormous difference in public transport. Buses are being sorted as part of the submitted transport plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: What the Heck Lol well we don't need that any more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, sidcow said: 100 odd people per tram. 500-600 per train. Train every 10 minutes in each direction JUST at Aston plus trains at Witton, I'm not sure how frequent they are. That's an enormous difference in public transport. Buses are being sorted as part of the submitted transport plan. Admittedly I’ve never counted the people getting on, but the Tram from memory, seemed a lot bigger than 100 odd people [rdit. Just looked it up and it’s over 400 people capacity for a doubled up tram and every 6 minutes, plus 2 different lines] and more frequent than the trains from Aston or Witton. The queues by the cricket ground go down faster than those at Aston Station. But regardless of Manchester’s system, for Villa Park and any redevelopment, whether part of the planning permission or not, it needs sorting out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: I moved my bins earlier, I'm expecting Andy Street to congratulate himself on tidying up my drive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2023 The station is good news even though we're not going to be significantly improving our capacity - it'll take some of the pressure off the existing transport issues and that tunnel at the end of Station Road is something of a mini game changer - it brings the new academy buildings into play on matchday by cutting off the long walk from the front, down to Witton Island and then the ground and means that they'll be able to use it for the stuff they do in the warehouse on matchdays now or for additional hospitality - the cake might be gone, but at least we're still getting a little cherry. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: at least we're still getting a little cherry Hmm. A business case has to be put forward and approved before anything happens. Don’t count your chickens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 How many trains actually stop at Witton? I assume nowhere near as frequent at Aston. Interestingly, if we could go back to the days of football specials you could run trains in both directions from Witton (and Aston for that matter) back into New Street as there is a loop which takes trains back into New Street from the other side. And as an aside people saying there aren't enough carriages, the new Class 730 trains about to start service on the cross city line have a huge uplift in capacity, the new fleet will actually DOUBLE the capacity of the line. So you'll see significantly more people being able to board each train that calls at Aston. That said it's my experience that many trains already leave Aston with plenty of unfilled seats because of poor organisation at the station. Many people still don't move properly down the platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, blandy said: Hmm. A business case has to be put forward and approved before anything happens. Don’t count your chickens. It will get through, there will be some kind of fund for the Euro's for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 People conplain about our site bit honestly, if we had been somewhere else for the past 100 years and were now looking for a new site, where we currently are would look very attractive what with two rail stations so close. What we have is a great site of manages correctly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, sidcow said: That said it's my experience that many trains already leave Aston with plenty of unfilled seats because of poor organisation at the station. Many people still don't move properly down the platform. Not any more, I travel towards Lichfield after the game and the train is at the platform for a good 3-4 minutes before it departs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Milfner said: Not any more, I travel towards Lichfield after the game and the train is at the platform for a good 3-4 minutes before it departs. Shires. tut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, blandy said: The tram does though and the buses are timed ready and waiting and very frequent. At VP there’s 2 stations, but not enough trains and not enough carriages and the buses don’t seem coordinated in the way they are at other grounds like Man City and United. Whether VP is embiggened or not, the public transit could be way better. It's practically impossible to get a bus to or from villa park which makes the trains crazy busy. You'd think you'd run like 5/6 buses every 10 minutes for like an hour after the game to clear the people. And have them go all around the city I should be clear. Edited December 21, 2023 by MotoMkali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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