Villa Park redevelopment

[MrBlack]

10 hours ago, Villatillidie95 said:

Interesting that you said that about Aston Hall, The Times are actually reporting that the newly appointed commissioners who have taken over the running of Birmingham city council have lined up aston hall for a sale. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the club try to buy it, what other club has an offering like that on their doorstep? I could see the commercial team thinking it will be a real money spinner pre Match for the more “cultured” hospitality clientele they are going after!

I dont know how much money the council make from it (if any), but as for something for the council to sell, it absolutely makes sense.  How much premium could they put on it to sell to Aston Villa?

For us, an opportunity to own the land the other side of Trinity Road and maybe make expansion an easier prospect.

Link in with the club/stadium to make it an even more attractive offering as a wedding venue,  link the revenue to villa for FFP purposes... this sounds potentially very promising.

[andycv]

It may have been mentioned elsewhere in the thread - sorry if it has (I couldn't see when I skimmed).

Both of the new applications are coming to the planning committee on 28 September - and both have recommendations from the planning officer to grant:

Warehouse: http://eplanning.idox.birmingham.gov.uk/publisher/docs/A052B29C4280E1D878C47A51AC983DEC/Document-A052B29C4280E1D878C47A51AC983DEC.pdf

North Stand: http://eplanning.idox.birmingham.gov.uk/publisher/docs/5504253B551A22A551760706A00A3793/Document-5504253B551A22A551760706A00A3793.pdf

Interestingly the planning for the North Stand will only be valid for 2 years - so they'll need to get a move on, and it does allow for the building of Villa Live - just separate from the North Stand.

Hopefully the club will let us know the plan pretty soon after permission is granted (if it is)

 

[Brumstopdogs]

 

[MrBlack]

9 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

That cannot be the final design...I assume a temporary fix that actually doesn't look too horrific from a distance. 

[sidcow]

4 hours ago, MrBlack said:

That cannot be the final design...I assume a temporary fix that actually doesn't look too horrific from a distance. 

Other than in that photo it looks horrific from a distance. 

[Talldarkandransome]

6 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

So has the Milk Tray man

[Mic09]

13 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

I noticed this during the palace game.

Why can't they just move the entire 'THE' 2 seats down?

Oh, they are probably busy picking out the fresh Japanese style prawns for the £4999 a year hospitality seats. 

[ender4]

21 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said:

 

What the actual F is that    Has to be a temporary quick fix surely?

[saturdaygig]

On 25/09/2023 at 14:13, andycv said:

Interestingly the planning for the North Stand will only be valid for 2 years - so they'll need to get a move on, and it does allow for the building of Villa Live - just separate from the North Stand.

You only have to start a project to comply with that planning requirement. Digging some footings is the normal way to achieve an official start, then the permission lasts in perpituity. Land and Planning Act innit.

[The Fun Factory]

16 hours ago, Talldarkandransome said:

So has the Milk Tray man

We most have lost some capacity in the Lower Holte because of this?

[Talldarkandransome]

2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said:

We most have lost some capacity in the Lower Holte because of this?

Probably, but look as those windows

[andycv]

Permission granted for both.

[sidcow]

15 minutes ago, andycv said:

Permission granted for both.

Build it.

[Mic09]

20 minutes ago, andycv said:

Permission granted for both.

Dendoncker and Tielemans to be released? 

[It's Your Round]

On 27/09/2023 at 00:31, Talldarkandransome said:

So has the Milk Tray man

That’s actually Purslow sneaking in to Lord it over his dastardly plans. 

[Zatman]

5 hours ago, It's Your Round said:

That’s actually Purslow sneaking in to Lord it over his dastardly plans. 

Not really Purslows M.O

[Chindie]

The RoI/UK joint bid is now the only bid for Euro 2028 so presumably international football is definitely back at Villa Park.

[The Fun Factory]

20 minutes ago, Chindie said:

The RoI/UK joint bid is now the only bid for Euro 2028 so presumably international football is definitely back at Villa Park.

Providing we actually complete the North Stand on schedule and not do a HS2.

[OutByEaster?]

Just on the idea that other teams don't put hospitality into their end stands, Manchester City are building this pub into theirs as part of their redevelopment:

https://www.dawnvale.com/projects/the-ardwick-etihad-stadium/

I think that's their Terrace View/Lower Grounds type experience.

But much more pertinently, these are the concourses they're putting into their new stand:

https://www.dawnvale.com/projects/south-stand-concourse-etihad-stadium/

 

Just to be clear - these aren't a hospitality area, these are concourses - the basic facilities for all fans to use - these are the general access areas.

The problem at Villa Park at the moment isn't that we're trying to keep up with other grounds in terms of our hospitality offering, it's that we're making no moves whatsoever so keep up with the likes of City and Spurs on our general concourse offering - on the things we offer to 90% of the supporters in the ground.

There's absolutely no reason whatsoever that the Lower and Upper Holte Concourses shouldn't look like something like that in Claret and Blue.

[Rugeley Villa]

Only problem is our fanbase hasn’t developed like City and Spurs has. We aren’t a tourist club , we are not a successful club and our main fanbase is working class/middle class.