OutByEaster? Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 Memberships last a calendar year and their chief (almost sole) benefit is that they get you access to match tickets; they're a ticket buying licence. If you buy one today, it'll include the first six or so home games of next season. If the North Stand is gone at that point, then it's unlikely a membership will get you a match ticket, we'll be at a capacity of around 34,000 with away fans, corporates, the GA+ areas and 28,000+ season ticket holders. The club haven't made any move toward taking the memberships off sale, nor reduced the price to account for that and you can go online right now and buy a product that purports to offer you the chance to buy a ticket to a game in November 2024. Read into that what you will. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: It looks like a significant impasse and the clock is ticking for the euros. If we mess this up then the second city will not be a host city. I'd assume the purpose of Villa/Purslow playing up the importance of the Euros to the redevelopment would be to try to strongarm the authorities into forking over the money, rather than our Euros hosting hinging on the redevelopment. I don't see why a new North Stand would make that much of a difference? Especially when there are stadiums in much, much worse condition than ours who are part of the bid. Casement Park currently looks like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Memberships last a calendar year and their chief (almost sole) benefit is that they get you access to match tickets; they're a ticket buying licence. If you buy one today, it'll include the first six or so home games of next season. If the North Stand is gone at that point, then it's unlikely a membership will get you a match ticket, we'll be at a capacity of around 34,000 with away fans, corporates, the GA+ areas and 28,000+ season ticket holders. The club haven't made any move toward taking the memberships off sale, nor reduced the price to account for that and you can go online right now and buy a product that purports to offer you the chance to buy a ticket to a game in November 2024. Read into that what you will. A 2025 start date and a 50,000 Villa Park at best for 2028, not 52k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: A 2025 start date and a 50,000 Villa Park at best for 2028, not 52k? If I was guessing, I'd say so. And I'd be delighted by the way - that 50,000 seat Villa Park will be beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 The article says that UEFA require the stadium to be used for a year after expansion for testing. Can we finish it in 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: The article says that UEFA require the stadium to be used for a year after expansion for testing. Can we finish it in 2 years? I'd have thought so - two years is plenty of time for a single stand surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: I'd have thought so - two years is plenty of time for a single stand surely? I have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: The article says that UEFA require the stadium to be used for a year after expansion for testing. Can we finish it in 2 years? The estimate was 2 years and that was including the new Villa Live building, so 2 years including creating Villa Live facilities in the existing academy building should still be feasible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycv Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Is it likely there'll be an update at the informal Fan Advisory Board tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, andycv said: Is it likely there'll be an update at the informal Fan Advisory Board tonight? The club has taken on board your comment and will address it never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, andycv said: Is it likely there'll be an update at the informal Fan Advisory Board tonight? Perhaps, but the fan representatives won’t be able to say anything until the minutes are out a couple of months after the stand has been built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Memberships last a calendar year and their chief (almost sole) benefit is that they get you access to match tickets; they're a ticket buying licence. If you buy one today, it'll include the first six or so home games of next season. If the North Stand is gone at that point, then it's unlikely a membership will get you a match ticket, we'll be at a capacity of around 34,000 with away fans, corporates, the GA+ areas and 28,000+ season ticket holders. The club haven't made any move toward taking the memberships off sale, nor reduced the price to account for that and you can go online right now and buy a product that purports to offer you the chance to buy a ticket to a game in November 2024. Read into that what you will. There’s a years prep works to be done before they look to knock down the north stand so no need to stop selling memberships now. That will start day after the foo fighters gig next summer so north stand will be out of use 2025/26 so plenty of time before summer 2028. Edited November 22, 2023 by thabucks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, thabucks said: There’s a years prep works to be done before they look to knock down the north stand so no need to stop selling memberships now. That will start day after the foo fighters gig next summer so north stand will be out of use 2025/26 so plenty of time before summer 2028. That's my feeling too - that we'll have the North Stand open next season while the club starts to undertake some of the preparatory work, demolishes the current shop and office building and puts in drainage and services and so on, before the demolition of the North Stand starts at the end of the 2024-25 season. Time will tell though I guess. I'll ask about any updates at tonight's thing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I really hope we do go ahead and begin the process next summer. We really need that work to be done to push to the next level, and the rhetoric from that Athletic article has me a wee bit concerned, especially as it’s already been delayed by a year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: That's my feeling too - that we'll have the North Stand open next season while the club starts to undertake some of the preparatory work, demolishes the current shop and office building and puts in drainage and services and so on, before the demolition of the North Stand starts at the end of the 2024-25 season. Time will tell though I guess. I'll ask about any updates at tonight's thing. And the original widely optimistic time frame was demolition this summer! That never looked likely. If we have to wait a bit more then fine. What I don't want to see is a clusterf**k between the club and the local authorities each blaming each other if we can't get the transport sorted and we miss out on the euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I really hope this happens next Summer. It was about this time last year they releases that video of the new stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 hours ago, cheltenham_villa said: i really dont know how they go about fixing the transport problems. Even if you fix the station, you still need more trains to be running to take people away. I wonder if the club could consider some sort of park and ride, maybe using star city a bit more? but even then, if we want to get 10 thousand more fans in, conservatively thats 2.5 thousand more cars and nearly 200 full bus journeys to ship people about. Didnt we make a hire in this space? a guy very experience in transport planning etc? Agreed Cheltenham. The frequency of the trains is probably more important than the development of the stations. There never seems to be any extra trains run on a matchday. On a Saturday or weekday, if you hit the sweetspot when the trains arrive every 10 minutes (Aston -> Lichfield service) the crowds clear very quickly with the 6 carriage trains. Sunday with the 30 minute service, its dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 6 hours ago, wishywashy said: I'd assume the purpose of Villa/Purslow playing up the importance of the Euros to the redevelopment would be to try to strongarm the authorities into forking over the money, rather than our Euros hosting hinging on the redevelopment. I don't see why a new North Stand would make that much of a difference? Especially when there are stadiums in much, much worse condition than ours who are part of the bid. Casement Park currently looks like this! Raw beauty that picture is , love old abandoned grounds or buildings etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 Just have a load of no7 buses lined up like the old days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, S-Platt said: Just have a load of no7 buses lined up like the old days. Which sounds like a really sensible suggestion - the problem is that those busses would now just be stuck in and around Villa Park for forty minutes - you could walk into the city centre quicker than a bus that left Villa Park five minutes after kick off - it's the surrounding traffic that's changed everything, and the increased car ownership locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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