lexicon Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 This company within a company stuff doesn't sound good to me. Sounds like 'tax dodge'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 1 minute ago, lexicon said: This company within a company stuff doesn't sound good to me. Sounds like 'tax dodge'. Can they circumvent FFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Our new Chairman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joost1 Posted May 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2016 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: It's important to understand that in China it's very common for companies to have some element of government financing, it doesn't mean much of anything at all. Rui Kang Pharmaceutical Group is almost certainly just some random company, it's not like being taken over by Saudi Aramco or something. Yep. Many Mainland Chinese companies are former state-owned enterprises and the government retains a stake after they go public. Sometimes these companies do deals not for sound commercial reasons but out of a sense of "national service" -- senior management is looking to score points with the central government by helping China to realise its grand ambitions (like, say, becoming a football superpower). That may or may not be the case here, but don't be misled by this "owned by the Chinese government" stuff. More to the point, the 2 Hong Kong-listed companies named in the speculation are basically penny stocks: * Rui Kang Pharmaceutical Group Investment has a market capitalisation of just HK$190m (about 17m quid). And it has the 4-year share-price chart from hell. * China Wah Yan Healthcare has a market cap of HK$282m (25m quid). One of its interests, among many, is investment in "distressed assets". Mmm. Its shares, too, have performed very poorly over the past couple of years. If one or both of these companies are involved in a consortium, you'd better hope the other members have much deeper pockets. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Cheers for the info - I'm guessing you work in finance in Hong Kong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joost1 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, lexicon said: Cheers for the info - I'm guessing you work in finance in Hong Kong? Good guess ;-) It may be that some people behind these listed companies are involved in a bid, but on past form (Birmingham International Holdings Ltd) you'd be very, very wary. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: It's important to understand that in China it's very common for companies to have some element of government financing, it doesn't mean much of anything at all. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 4 hours ago, maqroll said: I don't like his face. I agree. Too serious and, on top of that wearing a pink tie! Too namby pamby for Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Ponky said: Our new Chairman? He's dead, Ponky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 He's dead, Ponky. So an improvement on the current lot, then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Thank god it's the end of Lerner, exciting times for villa fans in my opinion. If Chinese government are involved they are bloody loaded. also Reilly getting sacked for comolli is great news. Reilly has a complete disaster at least comolli has some success, and is a experienced football man unlike fox. But I'm going to guess little, bevington and Hollis don't fit into new model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 7 hours ago, VillanousOne said: first pic of Chinese Consortium leaked on twatter The cheque's in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2016 It's difficult to guess whether our new owners will be rich or poor, but I would assume that they would want to own a football club to be successful...? Which in the modern age requires money, that or some sort of moneyball approach but we tried that with the Tonev's, etc. I'm not all over how FFP works but presumably we could spend a quick £100m in the summer and it not be a problem providing we had income that didn't result in significant losses over a three year period... (Or something?). Presumably parachute payments are included in the income, as is any new sponsorship deal and player sales, so we could be OK. Or if the new owners can do a Man City and effectively 'sponsor' ourselves that would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 8 hours ago, thabucks said: Jesus has been talked about for 2000 odd years doesn't mean he existed. Fantasy thinking and click bait IMO I think that it's without doubt, that Jesus existed. Whether or not he did all the things that are Claimed in the bible is debatable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Only villa would be taken over (I realise nothing is set in stone yet) and it be completely unclear whether the perspective owners have any bloody money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Thank god it's the end of Lerner, exciting times for villa fans in my opinion. If Chinese government are involved they are bloody loaded. also Reilly getting sacked for comolli is great news. Reilly has a complete disaster at least comolli has some success, and is a experienced football man unlike fox. But I'm going to guess little, bevington and Hollis don't fit into new model. They'll be smart to keep Little, let's hope they do. (If "they" even exist, because I fear another Lerner smokescreen could be in full effect right now) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Well the Chinese have been spending some serious money in their leagues. lets hope these guys are big time players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Woodytom said: I think that it's without doubt, that Jesus existed. Whether or not he did all the things that are Claimed in the bible is debatable Based on a book written by a committee 300 plus years after. OK ?! But that's for another thread. so back to our potential Chinese takeaway. The euphoria soon gets placed with trepidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, thabucks said: Based on a book written by a committee 300 plus years after. OK ?! But that's for another thread. There is other (non religious) evidence but, as you say, for another time/thread........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 So in summary the possible new owners that nobody know anything about are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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