Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted May 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Johnson is being summoned to court on the basis of misleading and " “used the platforms and opportunities offered to him by virtue of his public office” to endorse his claims that is 100% identical to the Corbyn example I gave ,but alas I'm not an opportunist and cant be arsed to start a crowdfunding page to prove it It's not similar at all. The Corbyn example you have given - which doesn't appear to be a direct quote, but lets assume it's verbatim - is an argument about what people are planning to do, or likely to do, in the future. Since in your own post you admit that the Tories have, in fact, privatised parts of the NHS, and there are plans to move further services out of the public sector, it does not appear to be a lie at all. We would need an actual quote to parse this any further. Johnson's example is of him repeating one particular statistic after the director of the Office of National Statistics wrote to him twice to tell him that he was intentionally misleading the public and needed to knock it off. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 What about this as an example from Labour? "We will end austerity". That is a lie - should it be persecuted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mic09 said: What about this as an example from Labour? "We will end austerity". That is a lie - should it be persecuted? How is that a lie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Please stop confusing persecuted and prosecuted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Quote Turkey's hopes of joining the European Union are fading, the bloc's executive has said, noting worse conditions in courts, prisons and the economy, but Ankara rejected the criticisms as "unfair" and "disproportionate". Still considered a security ally, Turkey's candidacy to join the world's largest trading group is frozen because of "further serious backsliding" on rights, the judiciary and economic policy, the EU Commission said in its annual progress report on Wednesday. Al Jazeera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 30/05/2019 at 22:49, chrisp65 said: How is that a lie? How can it ever be a lie? 'Austerity' is a semantic construct to describe the Conservatives willful dismantling of public services and social support. They implement 'austerity' whenever they are in government. They've claimed to have ended 'austerity', when in fact they've continued to implement 'austerity'. What is the tangible defining line for where 'austerity' begins and ends? There isn't one. They might come up with another word for it soon. It might be that they're making 'efficiency savings', more likely that they're 'implementing the will of the people'. Whatever. All it ever ends up with them mucking the country up. Sorry, off topic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: How can it ever be a lie? 'Austerity' is a semantic construct ........ Agreed. I was just trying to keep it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted June 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 31/05/2019 at 13:22, Xann said: Al Jazeera So 60million Turks aren’t set to enter the UK immediately?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Brits in rEurope, worry no longer. Prime Minister Leadsom is just going to pass a law in Parliament saying that all their rights in whichever country they live won't change. Can't think why they didn't think of it before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted June 2, 2019 Loathesome and brain dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 20 hours ago, cyrusr said: So 60million Turks aren’t set to enter the UK immediately?! No but I'm sure they'll tweak the scaremongering to 60m turks currently getting their citizenship in Germany so they can move to the UK in 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 US Ambassador expecting the NHS to be on the table in any post Brexit trade deals the UK makes with the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 And on the subject of trade deals, this thread is worth a read: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just because most things like this are thoroughly depressing, it's nice to have the occasional green shoot rising through the manure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 29/05/2019 at 12:24, bickster said: Indie I was expecting it to get thrown out but it appears not. Should be amusing at least Hearing delayed after the judge recused herself to avoid accusations of a conflict of interest. I imagine had Ed Miliband's wife found against him, Johnson wouldn't have taken the decision with good grace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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