cyrusr Posted March 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rodders said: What is right with Tories? FTFY. That should be a bit quicker to answer @bickster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I love that even today she's stood up and told off all the other MP's for turning this in to a shitshow. It must be brilliant to be so convinced of your lack of fault. Astounding performance from her, absolutely bereft of self awareness. Like, clinically unaware she's a massive part of the **** problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Dunning-Kruger effect is high with Theresa today it seems 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 29, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I love that even today she's stood up and told off all the other MP's for turning this in to a shitshow. It must be brilliant to be so convinced of your lack of fault. Astounding performance from her, absolutely bereft of self awareness. Like, clinically unaware she's a massive part of the **** problem. I believe the same off the record cabinet minister I referenced above also said the whole situation was down to her, her inability to engage and her alone In a normal situation, there'd be a witch hunt and a resignation. I won't be holding my breath on that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 21 hours ago, snowychap said: If it fails tomorrow, does May stand up and declare her intention to ask the house to go for an early election (obviously, she wouldn't do it that way - she didn't last time as she thought it was still in her power)? And then is the GE run solely on the basis of Tory as Leave v Labour as Anti-Leave using tomorrow's vote as 'the evidence'? If so then we're in for one of the worst election campaigns that we could imagine. Nope. She stands up and seems to suggest more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: What's the point in GE? At this point i'd vote for anyone who had 1 policy of "We will revoke Article 50" but no one will do it. LibDems? I'm tempted. That's how bad it's got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Freshly cut from the BBC All going on 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, Davkaus said: #smashthematriachy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, mjmooney said: LibDems? I'm tempted. That's how bad it's got. Problem for many, is with reds and blues both being brexit parties, in my const. for example, they totalled 91% of the vote between them. That's gonna need some hell of a tactical voting miracle to shift that to any other result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, snowychap said: I think Chris Philp (on Sky News) has just said that Snell and Nandy have voted for the motion. I may have got that wrong as it was when I turned over to the channel. I either misheard or he was lying. They both voted against the motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2019 44 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I'm surprised no-one's made any er... ruder suggestions as to what she's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 29, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Problem for many, is with reds and blues both being brexit parties, in my const. for example, they totalled 91% of the vote between them. That's gonna need some hell of a tactical voting miracle to shift that to any other result. These are ex-strawberry times though. The new Change UK Party + the Libs will have an electoral pact. They will also choose their seats carefully and I wouldn't be shocked to see some sort of non-party based targetting of telling people which way to vote in each constituency if they want to remain (and the same in the opposite direction if Aaron Banks isn't jailed) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 29, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I'm surprised no-one's made any er... ruder suggestions as to what she's doing. She's not capable of receiving that much pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I'm surprised no-one's made any er... ruder suggestions as to what she's doing. Sometimes, by common consent, we all agree not to put those images into a collective consciousness. Edited March 29, 2019 by Rodders 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He’s one of our own, he’s one of own... (well, okay - he supports the same team at least) Quote The former governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, has attacked MPs over their handling of Brexit and called for Britain to leave the EU without a deal after six months of preparation. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/29/uk-should-leave-eu-with-no-deal-says-former-bank-of-england-governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted March 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2019 I don't give a shite about politics but if she is 'agreeing' to quit once her deal goes through, but clearly not going to happen after 3 rejections, then why the **** is she still here? Is it just her thinking of her own career as it obviously seems? If so, she's just as much of a traitor as Cam*ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 29, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, villarule123 said: I don't give a shite about politics but if she is 'agreeing' to quit once her deal goes through, but clearly not going to happen after 3 rejections, then why the **** is she still here? Is it just her thinking of her own career as it obviously seems? If so, she's just as much of a traitor as Cam*ron. 1) she never actually said the words "I'll Leave" (and anyone who believed her is an idiot - the Tory Party appears to be full of them) 2) She said there should be a change in "leadership" for the next phase of the negotiations (or some other nebulous shite). We haven't got there yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post desensitized43 Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, hippo said: Thats a few gates down the line. and in case would only follow what May has done with DUP. I think we initially spent many months having sympathy for TM as there were no good options, dealt a bad hand etc - but I think her early red lines , and bluff that the EU would come round basically put any progress on hold for 18 months. She should resign this afternoon - she has totally failed to achieve anything - she should have been ditched after the last GE - it was obvious then she wasn't up to much. **** sympathy for her. She wanted the job in the first place knowing full well what a state "dave" had left of the country. Every time she's had the opportunity to compromise or build a consensus with the moderates of the opposition, she decided that she needed to appease the extreme right wing of the party. It's no coincidence that the MP's who quit the party were all from the other side...they could see where she was going. The unforgivable thing is how readily the Tories are willing to sacrifice the union simply to hold their party together...disgusting behaviour. I'm glad it's been voted down and I hope they get wiped out at the next election. I suspect they won't though as there's a lot of those "home counties" voters who's xenophobia isn't just limited to those in the EU and elsewhere abroad but also extends to fellow Brits from other parts of our islands. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 "Clearly it was not the result we wanted. But, that said, we have had a number of senior Conservative colleagues who have felt able to vote with the government today. They have done so in higher numbers than previously," the source said. "Clearly there is more work to do. We are at least going in the right direction." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47752017 I want at least 4 referendums until Revoke and Remain wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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