Xann Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 6 hours ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: Meanwhile in Berlin, Macron calls for; closer ties, taxation to be set by EU, budgets to be set by EU and an EU army. Golly! it couldn't be cos countries like the UK and Luxembourg are diddling the system? An EU army eh. Wonder Why? Our army, being a public service, has been run run into the ground by the Tories of course. Quote Former UK service chiefs have launched a devastating critique of the state of British forces, saying they were no longer fit for purpose and that the army was 20 years out of date. Gen Sir Richard Barrons, who retired last year as commander of joint forces command, said the armed forces were close to breaking point, with the navy underfunded and the air force at the edge of its engineering capacity. Barrons, speaking alongside counterparts from the navy and air force, was giving evidence to a House of Commons defence committee investigation into the latest defence review, which is scheduled to announce its findings next month and which will almost certainly mean more cuts. Grauniad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted November 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Refreshing to hear the Prime Minister reaffirm her actual thoughts on EU nationals who have (or may still be thinking about) making their and their family's life in this country. I'm assuming that she also takes the view that all of the UK citizens who are living and working in the rest of the EU are also 'queue-jumpers'. She is despicable. Edited November 19, 2018 by snowychap 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted November 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2018 Quote She told them that her plan would provide a fair immigration system that would help young people in the UK get jobs and training. "It will no longer be the case that EU nationals, regardless of the skills or experience they have to offer, can jump the queue ahead of engineers from Sydney or software developers from Delhi. "Instead of a system based on where a person is from, we will have one that is built around the talents and skills a person has to offer." TBC So, is she suggesting that at present, regardless of skills and experience, I have to employ EU citizens and not people that can do the job and have the qualifications? I wasn't aware of this. I thought applicants had to have the quals and experience! I'll be fair to her, that is a liberty. We've genuinely been employing people as doctors that aren't qualified doctors, they just happen to live in Bulgaria? **** hell that's terrible. We've been employing structural engineers that weren't structural engineers, but got the job just because they lived in Bilbao? This is serious stuff. Or, she's reverting to lies yet again in the hope yet again that people are too pig ignorant to bother pausing, thinking and checking the facts. Incidentally, we currently employ one from New Zealand, how the hell he slipped through the net I don't know. Probably said he was from Gdansk. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Edited November 19, 2018 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2018/11/david-davis-there-has-long-been-an-alternative-to-this-discredited-draft-deal-its-the-canada-style-plan-that-tusk-and-barnier-offered-us.html Quote "If we need to leave with no deal and negotiate a free trade agreement during the transition period, so be it" The man responsible for the negotiations for nearly 18 months, STILL doesn't understand how the process works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 He knows. He wants no deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Matt Chorley in The Times Red Box email pretty much sums up where Labour stand: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 16 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Blair trying to work his way back into politics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Excellent piece of journalism from the contributor on Newsnight right now 'we're waiting on the 20 page document, it'll be about three times as long as the 7 page document'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Can't post it on here because of all the sweary words, but Janey Godley on twitter has filmed her reaction to Mad Nad on Brexit. Worth a look. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 20, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, peterms said: Can't post it on here because of all the sweary words, but Janey Godley on twitter has filmed her reaction to Mad Nad on Brexit. Worth a look. That's a great rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 hours ago, ml1dch said: Matt Chorley in The Times Red Box email pretty much sums up where Labour stand: Doesn't like to use full stops does he? Must have a allergy to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 the worrying thing about the jumping the queue comments is that it almost suggests that she doesn't know why people migrate here in the 1st place its not software developers in poland getting paid £3 an hour minimum wage looking at jobs in the UK thinking our software developers get paid £7.83 an hour the queue they are jumping are working class jobs not taken by the non working class of this country or thanks to skills shortages created in this country (construction industry for example) the silver lining of brexit has to be an overhaul of benefits, apprenticeships, a change in education for low skilled workers, back to work schemes, end of 0 hour contracts and better jobs because if it doesnt then the demand for migrant labour is going to be exactly the same, she can label it as picking people based on talents and skills but planes full of plasterers from sydney isn't happening, it will be eastern european workers still coming here just under different rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 20, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: the worrying thing about the jumping the queue comments is that it almost suggests that she doesn't know why people migrate here in the 1st place its not software developers in poland getting paid £3 an hour minimum wage looking at jobs in the UK thinking our software developers get paid £7.83 an hour the queue they are jumping are working class jobs not taken by the non working class of this country or thanks to skills shortages created in this country (construction industry for example) the silver lining of brexit has to be an overhaul of benefits, apprenticeships, a change in education for low skilled workers, back to work schemes, end of 0 hour contracts and better jobs because if it doesnt then the demand for migrant labour is going to be exactly the same, she can label it as picking people based on talents and skills but planes full of plasterers from sydney isn't happening, it will be Indian and S.E. Asian workers still coming here just under different rules 7 FTFY. If we want FTDs with non EU Countries, Freedom of movement will come with those deals, that's the absolute insanity of this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, bickster said: FTFY. If we want FTDs with non EU Countries, Freedom of movement will come with those deals, that's the absolute insanity of this Your fix is right. It's true that it won't be Eastern Europeans coming for a pay rise of a few quid per hour (especially with the Polish economy doing well). It's going to be people from India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and so on, and Brexiters are going to absolutely hate it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Your fix is right. It's true that it won't be Eastern Europeans coming for a pay rise of a few quid per hour (especially with the Polish economy doing well). It's going to be people from India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and so on, and Brexiters are going to absolutely hate it. I've talked about this before, but young Poles simply aren't leaving because the cities are growing at such a pace, and with so many major companies. My company is now over 2000 employees. I would hazard a guess at 90% Polish and 70% 35 or under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's going to be people from India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and so on, and Brexiters are going to absolutely hate it. Priti Patel is flicking her bean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 15 hours ago, ml1dch said: Matt Chorley in The Times Red Box email pretty much sums up where Labour stand: Fair point - But in general I don't think there is a good deal to had, thats the fundamental problem, Labour, Tory, whoever ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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