HKP90 Posted December 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 06/12/2022 at 17:13, sidcow said: This. It's utter fantasy to believe another county will offer better trade deals to the UK alone than they will to the substantially bigger EU. I mean why would they? The EU is going to buy 10 times more stuff from them and they've got 10 times the numbers of buyers within the EU for their exports. I remember distinctly Brexiteers saying we would be first in their queue for a bumper US trade deal. There was a story in the press last week about no trade deal in sight with The USA and the Biden administration put it to the bottom of the pile and didn't see it as any kind of priority. Oven baked was touted about a lot and years later they're still scavenging around trying to stitch something together whilst our balance of payments collapses. They lied, they have sold the nation down the swanny because they didn't like forriners. This was why even at a basic level Brexit was obviously rubbish from day one. I was amazed nobody considered this most basic point when voting. It was as obvious as a piece of 2x4 to the face. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, HKP90 said: This was why even at a basic level Brexit was obviously rubbish from day one. I was amazed nobody considered this most basic point when voting. It was as obvious as a piece of 2x4 to the face. I think the problem was nobody who was spouting bollocks about Brexit expected it to win, they thought they could say what they wanted and it wouldn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted December 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Genie said: I think the problem was nobody who was spouting bollocks about Brexit expected it to win, they thought they could say what they wanted and it wouldn’t matter. You might be right there. It was a bluff that they got saddled with. Which explains all of David Cameron's behaviour around it. He's been a bit quiet in the intervening 6 years, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, HKP90 said: You might be right there. It was a bluff that they got saddled with. Which explains all of David Cameron's behaviour around it. He's been a bit quiet in the intervening 6 years, eh? I still kind of admire the brass balls on him just whistling and **** off at the first opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I still kind of admire the brass balls on him just whistling and **** off at the first opportunity In comparison to how the following leaders have behaved they should be building him a statue on Parliament Street. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Wow. Anyone seen the figures from Aston University? F***ing Hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Quote Four people have been charged in an investigation into suspected bribery at the European Parliament by a Gulf state - reportedly Qatar. Greek MEP and European Parliament Vice President Eva Kaili was among those previously arrested in the case. Prosecutors suspect the Gulf state tried to influence parliament decisions with donations of money or gifts. Local media have reported that the accused country is Qatar, which the Qatari government has denied. Watchdogs and opposition MEPs have said it could be one of the biggest corruption scandals the European Parliament has ever seen. Ms Kaili has been suspended from her duties as one of 14 vice-presidents, and from the parliament's Socialists and Democrats Group. She has also been expelled from the Greek centre-left Pasok party. President of the European Parliament Roberta Metsola flew from her native Malta to Brussels on Saturday evening to witness the searching of an MEP's house - as is required by the Belgian constitution. A spokesman for Ms Metsola said she had "decided to suspend with immediate effect all powers, duties and tasks that were delegated to Eva Kaili". The spokesman added that the European Parliament "stands firmly against corruption" and is "fully cooperating" with investigators. Cash worth about €600,000 ($632,000; £515,000) was seized by Belgian police in 16 searches in Brussels on Friday. Computers and mobile phones were also taken in order to examine their contents. A total of six people were detained for questioning, two of whom have been released. BBC Nice they got arrested. You get football tournaments or knighthoods elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Bring back the good old days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Traitor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted December 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Genie said: Bring back the good old days! Only Farage could campaign for something that breaks Britain, only to complain that it's broken. Hopefully he will soon realise that thing that's broken is him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 He underlined his complete lack of brain cells by declaring the Kwasi Kwarteng mini budget as the best for 40 years. Maybe it influenced the markets because if Farage thinks it’s good then it is certainly anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 There’s not many pro-Brexit voices sticking up for it left these days is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2022 Farage would say Britain is broken even if Britain was placed in an alternative reality where following all 'his' 'ideas' made it into the richest most powerful nation to have ever existed in the history of humanity and the streets were paved with gold. He's just a grifter. As for Brexit. Still catastrophically stupid in the most foreseeable and predictable ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 What he has posted could also be directly translated into “I’m a **** moron and I should never be listened to again”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2022 He would, I've no doubt, argue that he's actually a genius, it has just been done wrong/the people in charge don't want it and have **** it up on purpose/the evil EU has purposefully punished us/etc. And a **** ton of people would agree. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, Chindie said: He would, I've no doubt, argue that he's actually a genius, it has just been done wrong/the people in charge don't want it and have **** it up on purpose/the evil EU has purposefully punished us/etc. And a **** ton of people would agree. I’d actually like to listen to his reasoning for that. I don’t doubt you’re right, but we’ve had a far harder Brexit that he could have ever dreamed of, and it’s been disastrous. I’d love to hear his view on where it went wrong, and then someone with a full brain take it apart and explain why it’s ridiculous. Has he ever elaborated on where the government went wrong in his view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Ah Farage. He's so lucky he's living in 2022. In years past, for the harm he's inflicted on our country the Monarch would have found a burley man to remove his entrails and display his head on London bridge, but alas, it is 2022 and he's still free to walk this earth brainwashing his fellow countrymen to harm themselves and their country in the name of "sovereignty". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I think the biggest vote winner for Brexit was the two worst prime ministers ever, Tony Blair and John major side by side, advocating to stay in, if anything that probably swung the vote .... Either way the remain election campaign was admittedly shockingly bad and complacent. A good example of how not to run a campaign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 23, 2022 Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, delboy54 said: the two worst prime ministers ever, Tony Blair and John major You live in the present and call Blair and Major the two worst PMs ever? Every PM since has been worse Blair is probably the best PM the UK has had since Thatcher. (using that as a placeholder for "modern politics" not an endorsement) If you ignore the war mongering Iraq bit what did he do wrong? On the home front he got pretty much everything right. We were all much better off under Blair 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, delboy54 said: I think the biggest vote winner for Brexit was the two worst prime ministers ever, Tony Blair and John major...... Major wouldn't even make the top 10 of worst Tory prime ministers. Without even thinking about it the two Tory PM's that went before him (especially the witch) and the 5 Tories that have been PMs since make him look almost like he had a heart and some competence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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