tonyh29 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, bickster said: but it's this one, isn't it? Are you in the wrong thread Tony? it would appear so ... ignore me Mrs H must have spiked my bromide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterms Posted March 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I thought we already had a thread for name calling Torys in , can’t we keep ths one for Brexit and our expertise on predicting sizes of crowds ? If there's only going to be one thread for insulting tories, I want my money back. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Sweet Jesus. Fraser Nelson, Toby Young, Michael Gove. Like three one-legged men at an arse-kicking contest. Has our nation sunk to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted March 24, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2019 Michael Gove would be the worst caretaker since Ian Huntley. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Michael Gove would be the worst caretaker since Ian Huntley. I wouldn't leave him to cut up his own food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2019 People talk about Corbyn being unelectable, but... MICHAEL GOVE??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The man who literally wrote a foreword to the Bible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted March 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2019 Time to dust off this old favourite: 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 25, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 25, 2019 Michael Gove - the man who doesn’t understand average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted March 25, 2019 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, bickster said: Michael Gove - the man who doesn’t understand average That’s mean. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, blandy said: That’s mean. It’s bickster’s default mode. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The Graun has an interview with the estimable Miqdaad Versi, the guy who has made it his mission to monitor Islamaphobic content in British politics and media, and his conclusions about the Conservatives are worth reading: ‘The Tories are institutionally Islamophobic’: Miqdaad Versi takes on MPs and the media 'Miqdaad Versi is the UK’s one-man Islamophobia media monitor. And he has never had more monitoring to do than over the past week. We meet six days after the Christchurch terror attack, in which 50 Muslims at prayer were murdered by a gunman. Although the massacre happened on the other side of the world, its repercussions have been felt everywhere – not least in the UK, where the killer called for the death of London mayor Sadiq Khan in his “manifesto”. Versi has been concerned by the tone of much of the reporting in the UK. Last Wednesday, the country’s counter-terrorism chief Neil Basu said that far-right terrorists were being radicalised by mainstream newspaper coverage, criticising outlets such as Mail Online for uploading the “manifesto” of the Christchurch gunman, and sites including the Sun and the Mirror for showing his footage of the attack. The following night five mosques were attacked in Birmingham. On Friday, it was revealed that the number of anti-Muslim hate crimes reported across Britain increased by 593% (95 incidents, according to the charity Tell Mama) in the week following the New Zealand massacre. Yesterday, Sadiq Khan challenged the Conservatives to adopt a new definition of Islamophobia, already accepted by Labour and the Lib Dems, that has been drawn up by the all-party parliamentary group for British Muslims. Barely an hour seems to pass without Versi being called upon to cast his well-trained eye on another inaccurate or inflammatory statement about Islam. [. . .] Versi is quick to praise New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern. “The response of New Zealand is the benchmark of what you should be doing in a situation like this. The care, the empathy, the words.” And, being unwaveringly fair, he points out any British government minister he believes responded admirably. “James Brokenshire, the communities secretary, was very good. He visited a mosque the same day, used terms like Jumu’ah, Friday prayers – you don’t have to do that, but it’s nice. All of that was good.” [. . .] In the course of his investigations, he was surprised to discover how many of the stories he considered anti-Muslim concerned the Conservatives. The Muslim Council of Britain has long called for an inquiry into Islamophobia within the Conservative party. I ask him for the worst example. He immediately mentions Zac Goldsmith’s campaign against Sadiq Khan for mayor of London, in which letters were sent out from Tory party headquarters suggesting Khan was dangerous and not to be trusted. “That campaign was clearly racist and xenophobic and race baiting. It was dog whistle politics of the worst kind.” Versi was “staggered” to discover that even the then prime minister David Cameron was spreading the poison about Khan. Cameron said Khan had shared a platform with an imam who supported Islamic State. “What staggered me was how the prime minister of the country, David Cameron, publicly said imam Suliman Gani supported members of Islamic State. So he was basically willing to libel an imam for political purposes.” Gani had no Isis connections, and had in fact canvassed for the Conservative party. When I ask Versi for other examples of Islamophobia within the Conservative party, he doesn’t know where to start: MP Bob Blackman tweeting support for rightwing campaigner Tommy Robinson; Boris Johnson saying women who wear the burka “look like letterboxes”; Nadine Dorries posting links to a 10-year-old story about Muslims claiming benefits for multiple wives and saying women wear niqabs “to hide their bruises”. Last week, it was reported that another 25 Conservative party members had been suspended for posting Islamophobic comments online, to add to the 14 suspended weeks earlier. Former Conservative party chair Baroness Sayeeda Warsi recently called the Tory approach to Islamophobia “revolving door racism”, because so many suspended members were quietly welcomed back a short time later. And yet there has still been no inquiry. Last week Labour accepted the following definition of Islamophobia, which the all-party parliamentary group decided on after a six-month consultation: “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness.” Versi does not understand why the Conservative government is yet to endorse this, especially if it wants to be seen to be tackling Islamophobia. “It is deeply disappointing that the governing party of the country has dismissed the views of mainstream Muslim communities by refusing to endorse the Muslim-led definition of Islamophobia. The Conservative party is already mired in scandal after scandal on Islamophobia and appears to be going down a well-trodden path of denial and dismissal rather than acknowledgement and engagement. We can only hope this will change.”' https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/mar/25/the-tories-are-institutionally-islamophobic-miqdaad-versi-takes-on-mps-and-the-media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 25, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 25, 2019 I also think I read somewhere yesterday that another 15 Conservative members were readmitted to the party on the QT last week after allegations of Islamophobia without so much as an investigation. Unfortunately I can't remember where I saw it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 they were Tory Councillors , t'was in the grauniad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted March 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 15 hours ago, peterms said: Fraser Nelson, Toby Young, Michael Gove. Like three one-legged men at an arse-kicking contest. Has our nation sunk to this? Oi, please don't defame that noble flag and the world's oldest continually running Parliament by associating it with Toby Young! The last but two Chief Minister of the IOM was a hardware store owner from Castletown. One of the Finance Ministers was a neighbour of mine, a well-meaning but eccentric older lady whose sum total of economic understanding was to repeat the saying "neither a lender nor a borrower be." Both of course, would have done a far better job at this Brexit malarkey than the current UK PM. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Risso said: Oi, please don't defame that noble flag and the world's oldest continually running Parliament by associating it with Toby Young! Yes, I suppose on reflection they don't deserve that. Apologies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 25, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Risso said: Oi, please don't defame that noble flag and the world's oldest continually running Parliament by associating it with Toby Young! The last but two Chief Minister of the IOM was a hardware store owner from Castletown. One of the Finance Ministers was a neighbour of mine, a well-meaning but eccentric older lady whose sum total of economic understanding was to repeat the saying "neither a lender nor a borrower be." Both of course, would have done a far better job at this Brexit malarkey than the current UK PM. Do they still have flogging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted March 25, 2019 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Risso said: a well-meaning but eccentric older lady whose sum total of economic understanding was to repeat the saying "neither a lender nor a borrower be." This her? 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 25, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: ‘The Tories are institutionally Islamophobic’ It's nice that they offer a choice, clear blue water, from Labour's policy of being institutionally Anti-semitic. It gives the floating racist a different option. Racists are very much an oppressed minority and it's nice that some positive discrimination is being enacted to give them the leg up they so badly need - apart from all the newspaper columns, TV guest slots, LBC radio shows they host, and their internet channels - well they're just ignored and suppressed and have nowhere to foam their hateful bile from. Bravo the tories, Bravo for the racisms. Bravo the Labours. Bravo for being nasty to foreigners. Up the Brexit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 06/03/2019 at 14:25, Chindie said: The UK's porn block is stupid Good article on an intensely stupid plan. Just caught the end of a bit on Politics Live where the reporter said that this has been put on hold again (though they're still intending to bring it in). And for more worrying thoughts, Tim Loughton (Tory backbencher - he of the Leadsom sing-a-long) suggested that this ought to be the first step of trying to bring in age-verification more widely on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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