snowychap Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 19 hours ago, Chindie said: 20 hours ago, Xann said: Independent **** damning. It is. The report itself is well worth reading, too - available as a 24 page pdf here. Quote Introduction The UK is the world’s fifth largest economy, it contains many areas of immense wealth, its capital is a leading centre of global finance, its entrepreneurs are innovative and agile, and despite the current political turmoil, it has a system of government that rightly remains the envy of much of the world. It thus seems patently unjust and contrary to British values that so many people are living in poverty. This is obvious to anyone who opens their eyes to see the immense growth in foodbanks and the queues waiting outside them, the people sleeping rough in the streets, the growth of homelessness, the sense of deep despair that leads even the Government to appoint a Minister for suicide prevention and civil society to report in depth on unheard of levels of loneliness and isolation. And local authorities, especially in England, which perform vital roles in providing a real social safety net have been gutted by a series of government policies. Libraries have closed in record numbers, community and youth centers have been shrunk and underfunded, public spaces and buildings including parks and recreation centers have been sold off. While the labour and housing markets provide the crucial backdrop, the focus of this report is on the contribution made by social security and related policies. The parts of it on UC (conditionality, sanctions, 'digital by default', &c.), the effects of the ongoing benefits freeze and the effects of local authority cuts are particularly significant as is the stuff about the government's responses to him. As the report notes, we must have in mind that these are political decisions, taken initially by Cameron, Osborne and Duncan Smith and carried through now by May (for all her claims spouted in front of a lectern outside Number Ten), Hammond and whosoever is the Work and Pensions minister of the moment (Rudd's the fifth new one since Duncan Smith went in March 2016). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That strong and stable leadership claim is looking good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just had a thought, this could all be a game. The UK wants a tiny bit more and the EU have a tiny bit more to give still. I suggest they all know it will go back to the EU (They = May / Barnier, at that level anyway) - They knew it would never go through as it is and was made so. - They knew or suspected some would jump as they did from the cabinet. - May manages to hold it all together last week somehow which looking back is unreal. -(Question) the letters to the 1922, even if the number is reached, nothing is bound to time. In that the counter of letters can spend 6 weeks counting them if he wants. They all need to be spoken too by phone or in person double checking it all also. - In the next few days to trip up Boris and his ilk permanently, May is "reported" to have stayed up all night calling the EU. (Let's have one last go). (allready arrangedlast week I think) - Exchange the tiny bits mentioned above in really quick time as "they all want to get on with it" - Report this is the real real last deal for real, no more tiny bits from the EU - Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 So stoked to make trade with Europe much harder so we can discuss potential future trade with *checks notes*. . . Oklahoma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Tell him we'd rather he didn't hock the NHS to corporate America for the privilege of trading with Oklahoma, and that he's a word removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2018 How come he's out there implementing a foreign policy for which he has absolutely no mandate to be discussing? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 He's preparing for Brexit like the rest of his party. Readying for a national asset strip. Suits f*** it it up. Suits get a pay off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2018 At the very least, sort your tie out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: How come he's out there implementing a foreign policy for which he has absolutely no mandate to be discussing? He's not. He's playing "This is what you could have had", forming a small pile of snowballs to throw at people when we stay in the customs union and the bright future of vassalage to US corporates evaporates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, peterms said: He's not. He's playing "This is what you could have had", forming a small pile of snowballs to throw at people when we stay in the customs union and the bright future of vassalage to US corporates evaporates. On some level I know you're right, but it's so deluded - exactly which political constituency in the UK is exercised about the obstacles to trade with Oklahoma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: On some level I know you're right, but it's so deluded - exactly which political constituency in the UK is exercised about the obstacles to trade with Oklahoma? Fans of old musicals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 We should follow the Oklahoma example and form some sort of political and trading union with our near neighbours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just been for a cup of tea in a garden centre with the rest of my family, who are all moderate to middling Tories, running the gamut of opinion from, say, Anna Soubry to Jeremy Hunt (he was the most 'middle' Conservative I could think of, maybe there's a better choice). We ended up talking about Brexit, which was probably my fault. Anyway, a useful calibration of opinions - the view from the group was that 'people probably like Theresa May more now because she's getting it from both sides'. On the deal, 'she's come up with the only deal she could - if Boris Whatsisface and the 18th century guy got in they'd have to do the same' and 'they might not know what they're doing, but the socialists certainly don't'. One is a business owner, who has started a dormant subsidiary in the Netherlands in case he needs to move his business there next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 18, 2018 Author Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 hours ago, peterms said: Fans of old musicals? Ah, yes. Blue Hawaii. A classic of the genre* *not an actual classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, blandy said: Ah, yes. Blue Hawaii. A classic of the genre* *not an actual classic It IS a classic of the genre, though. The genre being "utterly shit Elvis movies". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: It IS a classic of the genre, though. The genre being "utterly shit Elvis movies". This suggests that an entirely different set of Elvis movies exists, I sir, propose that you have added an entirely superfluous shit to the genre. Elvis himself did this for you at the conception of each movie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, bickster said: This suggests that an entirely different set of Elvis movies exists, I sir, propose that you have added an entirely superfluous shit to the genre. Elvis himself did this for you at the conception of each movie No, it was Blandy that introduced a different genre (shit Elvis films) in response to a comment about shit Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals. Philistine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 If you thought you understood the lower boundary for the term "shameless", watch this vicious little shit, and recalibrate your views. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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