choffer Posted October 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hands up if, like me, you're a problem to society: Quote Unmarried Men Are ‘A Problem’ For Society, Says Tory MP Iain Duncan Smith ‘These boys’ will go looking for ‘the alternative on the internet’ if they don’t tie the knot, says IDS. Unmarried men often grow into “dysfunctional” human beings and become “a problem” for society, Iain Duncan Smith has claimed. Speaking at a fringe event at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester, the former Tory leader said that cohabiting couples have “inherently unstable” relationships in comparison to those who married. He went on to claim men out of wedlock were “released to do all the things they wouldn’t normally do” such as committing crimes, drinking too much, taking drugs and fathering multiple children.“Cohabitation is a very different relationship from marriage,” he said. “It is inherently unstable.” He went on: “The answer I think is because cohabitation suits one of the partners more than the other. Almost invariably it suits the man, because they have to make good on their commitment and when that commitment is facing them they then withdraw.” He said unmarried men were more likely to get into debt and commit crimes, adding: “What has been going on all these years is the men that have been absent from these families in many of these low income groups are now a problem. “They are out, no longer having to bring something in for their family, so they can be released to do all the things they wouldn’t normally do and shouldn’t do, so levels of addiction, levels of high criminal activity, issues around dysfunctional behaviour, multiple parenting – all those things are as a result of the un-anchoring of the young man to a responsibility that keeps them stable and eventually makes them more happy.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's that dickhead "comedian" Lee Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: You weren't merely trying to generalize about all Tories making reprehensible comments (though that again is pretty daft). Rather than properly criticizing a specific Tory for what he said, you claimed that all Tories go around repeating a particular remark. There's plenty to be critical about Tories in general and there's more than plenty to be critical about Boris in particular rather than try to take it down the path you have. Ok fair point. However it was tongue in cheek and fairly representative of most other glib comments on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted October 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, choffer said: Hands up if, like me, you're a problem to society: I'd wager that very few of us are as big a problem to society as that chump Duncan Smith. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted October 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2017 Apart from that unfunny clearing in the woods Nelson, May has lost her voice, and the letter F in her slogan has fallen off in the background, mid-speech. It's a cracking day for her. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Straggler Posted October 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Apart from that unfunny clearing in the woods Nelson, May has lost her voice, and the letter F in her slogan has fallen off in the background, mid-speech. It's a cracking day for her. It is a subtle hint for her to f off. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 "Building a country that works for everyone", they can't even make a sign for a few words removed successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Less a conference speech and more the transcript of Theresa May's anxiety dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Less a conference speech and more the transcript of Theresa May's anxiety dream. Well, her close colleagues seem to have been heartened and uplifted by it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted October 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 minute ago, peterms said: Well, her close colleagues seem to have been heartened and uplifted by it. That's one tough round of snog, marry, avoid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 42 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: "Building a country that works for everyone", they can't even make a sign for a few words removed successfully. I don't know where you got that slogan from. The official party slogan this year is shown below. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 That is absolutely priceless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, choffer said: That's one tough round of snog, marry, avoid. They actually look close to tears, especially Boris. Let's not forget that this is the best they can offer in terms of personnel & intelligence, the very cream of the Tory crop. They have all had privileges most of us could only dream of and they still turn out like this lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 4, 2017 Author Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2017 48 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Let's not forget that this is the best they can offer in terms of personnel & intelligence, the very cream of the Tory crop. They have all had privileges most of us could only dream of and they still turn out like this lot. I don't think it's the best they can offer in terms of personnel & intelligence, but yeah, nowhere near the cream of the Tory crop (an oxymoron anyway) more like hollow-eyed zombies IMO. They have all had privileges most of us could only dream of and so were bound to turn out like that lot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, blandy said: I don't think it's the best they can offer in terms of personnel & intelligence, but yeah, nowhere near the cream of the Tory crop (an oxymoron anyway) more like hollow-eyed zombies IMO. They have all had privileges most of us could only dream of and so were bound to turn out like that lot. much as I find the class system snobbery amusing , Hammond went to Shenfield School and was the son of a civil engineer , he's not even as privileged as Jeremy Prep School Corbyn best I can tell ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 But how do you feel about the big question of the day? Are you with tha Orks or Ryon? I'm voting for the Orks as anyone who worships Mork is ok in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Oh dear. After May's disastrous performance, the hyenas are already circling. Their periodic slaughter of the leader is fascinating to watch, like something out of prehistory being re-enacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: much as I find the class system snobbery amusing , Hammond went to Shenfield School and was the son of a civil engineer , he's not even as privileged as Jeremy Prep School Corbyn best I can tell ? My dad went to the same school as Corbyn and I almost did. Thank god my parents came to their senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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