VillaJ100 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Interesting to consider, what would our squad look like if we went down? Who would stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hard to say but I think a lot of them would stay for one season in the championship and would then leave if we failed to come up straight away. See Norwich. Don't give a shit about most of our players so if they leave **** them. The only big losses would be Grealish, Gil and maybe Richards and Amavi. I couldn't give a toss about any of the rest leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hard to say but I think a lot of them would stay for one season in the championship and would then leave if we failed to come up straight away. See Norwich. Don't give a shit about most of our players so if they leave **** them. The only big losses would be Grealish, Gil and maybe Richards and Amavi. I couldn't give a toss about any of the rest leaving.Yes, that's how I see it too. Anyone marketable and genuinely exciting leaves, the rest give you one year to make it back before they rethink things (and move to become bench fodder at Prem clubs). My predictions:STAY: Guzan, Bunn, Steer, Okore, Clark, Bacuna, Lescott, Richardson, Hutton, Crespo, Suliman, Baker, Bennett, Westwood, Gardner, Gabby, Kozak, Gestede. GO: Ilori, Richards, Senderos, Amavi, Gueye, Sinclair, Veretout, Sanchez, Gil, N'Zogbia, Grealish, Ayew, TraoreThose 'stays' are probably a reasonable Championship side, although there's a desperate lack of midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Lots of doom and gloom and totally writing us off in this thread which is totally understandable although I don't in anyway get close to writing us off.I'm confident in saying that Bournemouth, Watford, Sunderland, Norwich will not finish on any more than 40 points and that West Brom and Newcastle will have very similar totals. To be safe our task at the start of the season was to finish on around 38 - 40 points. That hasn't changed regardless of how far we are behind some of the teams mentioned.I'd be interested to know from those who have totally written us off does that prediction take into account a change in manager? Say if Moyes was to walk through the door in the next couple of weeks would we still be doomed?One things for certain in all this and that is either results will improve or the manager will be sacked. Therefore for me given I believe we have a squad that has enough with in it to stay up, and the possibility of a few quid being available to improve it in January, then either this manager will get the best out of them soon or he won't and will be shown the door and I believe there are managers out there who we can attract who will get the best out of the players and get the required results to see us safe. Edited October 18, 2015 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 My prediction is that we will continue to be shit. Our incompetent board will keep Sherwood on until we are 8-12 points off safety and by the time a new manager comes through the door (probably not Moyes as that would be far too sensible appointment) it will be too late. We will be relegated before the last home game of the season. Hopefully no one turns up for that game so all the players see is empty seats during their lap of shame. They will carry on with their careers knowing that they were part of the first Villa team to be relegated from the pl. Not that it will bother them much anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 If we went down I think only a couple of the players we would want to stay would go immediately. We'd be under huge pressure to come straight back up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Lots of doom and gloom and totally writing us off in this thread which is totally understandable although I don't in anyway get close to writing us off.I'm confident in saying that Bournemouth, Watford, Sunderland, Norwich will not finish on any more than 40 points and that West Brom and Newcastle will have very similar totals. To be safe our task at the start of the season was to finish on around 38 - 40 points. That hasn't changed regardless of how far we are behind some of the teams mentioned.I'd be interested to know from those who have totally written us off does that prediction take into account a change in manager? Say if Moyes was to walk through the door in the next couple of weeks would we still be doomed?One things for certain in all this and that is either results will improve or the manager will be sacked. Therefore for me given I believe we have a squad that has enough with in it to stay up, and the possibility of a few quid being available to improve it in January, then either this manager will get the best out of them soon or he won't and will be shown the door and I believe there are managers out there who we can attract who will get the best out of the players and get the required results to see us safe.January is too far away to matter, I expect us to be more than ten points away from safety by then, and the club might take the view, especially if they've spent a lot of money sacking Sherwood and appointing a replacement, that big player purchases are just going to damage the balance sheet for next season. I'm pretty sure that was exactly the attitude they had in Jan '13 when all we did was bring in Sylla. As for appointing a new manager, my gut instinct is that it won't be enough, that the team just isn't good enough and that the lack of a genuine Premier-quality striker will mean we don't win enough matches. However, if a new man comes in and we start racking up points, of course that prediction is open to revision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Newcastle winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Norwich are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Norwich are awful. better than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Better than us at the moment yes, but we are at the lowest of the low, whereas they have had a pretty decent start to the season, probably playing at their very best. Surely we can only get better with a new manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Well, Newcastle won, so we are in sole possession of 19th place.18 October19th PlaceNot good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2015 We'll be bottom by November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 In fairness it's half time.. But I agree sadly they will most likely win this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hard to say but I think a lot of them would stay for one season in the championship and would then leave if we failed to come up straight away. See Norwich. Don't give a shit about most of our players so if they leave **** them. The only big losses would be Grealish, Gil and maybe Richards and Amavi. I couldn't give a toss about any of the rest leaving.Yes, that's how I see it too. Anyone marketable and genuinely exciting leaves, the rest give you one year to make it back before they rethink things (and move to become bench fodder at Prem clubs). My predictions:STAY: Guzan, Bunn, Steer, Okore, Clark, Bacuna, Lescott, Richardson, Hutton, Crespo, Suliman, Baker, Bennett, Westwood, Gardner, Gabby, Kozak, Gestede. GO: Ilori, Richards, Senderos, Amavi, Gueye, Sinclair, Veretout, Sanchez, Gil, N'Zogbia, Grealish, Ayew, TraoreThose 'stays' are probably a reasonable Championship side, although there's a desperate lack of midfielders. If you go down you need to wipe the slate complete clean. Look at Wolves they kept the same chancers and went down again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 God next weekend we will be 20th.shocking, embarrassing for the poor fans. A club this size should.be midtable at the least Bow your head in shame Lerner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hard to say but I think a lot of them would stay for one season in the championship and would then leave if we failed to come up straight away. See Norwich. Don't give a shit about most of our players so if they leave **** them. The only big losses would be Grealish, Gil and maybe Richards and Amavi. I couldn't give a toss about any of the rest leaving.Yes, that's how I see it too. Anyone marketable and genuinely exciting leaves, the rest give you one year to make it back before they rethink things (and move to become bench fodder at Prem clubs). My predictions:STAY: Guzan, Bunn, Steer, Okore, Clark, Bacuna, Lescott, Richardson, Hutton, Crespo, Suliman, Baker, Bennett, Westwood, Gardner, Gabby, Kozak, Gestede. GO: Ilori, Richards, Senderos, Amavi, Gueye, Sinclair, Veretout, Sanchez, Gil, N'Zogbia, Grealish, Ayew, TraoreThose 'stays' are probably a reasonable Championship side, although there's a desperate lack of midfielders. If you go down you need to wipe the slate complete clean. Look at Wolves they kept the same chancers and went down againWe can do plenty of example and counter-example. Newcastle went down, kept almost all of the same players, and came straight back up. There's no magic formula, you have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Some of the players I named as 'STAY' have good experience in the Championship - Bennett has been there for a few seasons, Baker will have spent a year there, Steer is there on loan now, no point throwing that experience away. Maybe we could try to get rid of one or two of the higher earners I've named - Hutton's probably on too-much-per-week for the Championship for one - but you can only sell them if you have a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 We will get a maximum of 6 points from the next 6 games. We will be bottom of the table after those games. My prediction is that Sherwood will go any time between now and then and will be replaced with a relatively cheap option. I just hope that the likes of Pearson and Holloway have full time jobs by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think if the worst happens, Amavi, Gana, Sanchez, Richards will be gone for dust for bargain prices. I would really hope we can keep our young core with potential like grealish, Gil, Okore Traore and Ayew but I think I reality these players would leave too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 IMO, there is no way that this team should be getting relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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