Genie Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 05:22, blandy said: I think if people rate him on his form and performances at Man U then he’s overrated, but what I’m saying is that’s at least as much down to wrong place wrong time as his ability. He’s a magnificently gifted footballer in the wrong place, so people seem to think he’s average, but he’s not. IMO. A magnificently gifted footballer doesn’t have as many shit games as him. A quality player looks the part week in, week out, in any side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: He’s made 3 starts and 11 sub appearances. One goal and no assists. And he’s 22. Still young, but this isn’t an 18 year old we’re talking about. I'm certain he's set goals up. MOTD even did a piece on how his end product had improved a few weeks ago. Not saying he's amazing player by any means but he's played his part in Wolves being top 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I'm certain he's set goals up. MOTD even did a piece on how his end product had improved a few weeks ago. Not saying he's amazing player by any means but he's played his part in Wolves being top 8. Not according to WhoScored he hasn’t, in the league anyway. He starts occasionally and then gets 30 minutes every now and then. One of those players who seems to have the nack of looking dangerous but doing very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, penguin said: Not according to WhoScored he hasn’t, in the league anyway. He starts occasionally and then gets 30 minutes every now and then. One of those players who seems to have the nack of looking dangerous but doing very little. Ahh I'm probably confusing a little with his second half at Boro last season as he set up a fair few goals for Bamford. Still too soon to call anyway. Doubt he'll end up back at Barca anytime soon but can see him developing into a good player for Wolves level club challenging for europa league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Genie said: A magnificently gifted footballer doesn’t have as many shit games as him. A quality player looks the part week in, week out, in any side. Completely disagree in this instance. Players can have dips in form due to all kinds of reasons, played out of position, or out of natural role, problems at home, not getting on with the manager or coaches, recovery from injury, or like I say with Pogba being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Ahh I'm probably confusing a little with his second half at Boro last season as he set up a fair few goals for Bamford. Still too soon to call anyway. Doubt he'll end up back at Barca anytime soon but can see him developing into a good player for Wolves level club challenging for europa league. For me I think he is a bit of a limited player in some aspects. He reminds me of a Milan Baros where he just gets the ball and just runs. Occasionally you'll see an assist from him but I do not see much more than that. I didn't like his attitude thinking he was better than he is that we witnessed when he was here with us, but to get from Championship M'boro to 8th in the PL with Wolves at this moment in time, he has done something right but I still feel he is a bit of a two trick pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 5 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Unbelieveable. 8 years at United so far, its crazy. Not sure he get into a team like Brighton or Bournemouth defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 hours ago, blandy said: Completely disagree in this instance. Players can have dips in form due to all kinds of reasons, played out of position, or out of natural role, problems at home, not getting on with the manager or coaches, recovery from injury, or like I say with Pogba being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Dip in form yes, but Pogba goes months as a passenger in an average side. Truly gifted players looks good even in the dip, and magnificent when it all comes together. Pogba seriously over rated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Koscielny is dogshit. Not just because he is rusty after injury. He has always been dogshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Koscielny is dogshit. Not just because he is rusty after injury. He has always been dogshit. one of most overhyped defenders in recent seasons, always had a mistake in him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Leno really is one of the worst keepers in the league. The premier leagues' answer to Nyland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Seriously, was going to post in the game's gone thread. Are goalkeepers not coached anymore to jump and catch a **** football. A terrible floaty ball with no pace on it that hangs in the air for an age, and you think "keeper's all day, terrible."........and he still gets nowhere near it. Edited December 16, 2018 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Leno really is one of the worst keepers in the league. The premier leagues' answer to Nyland. I think i prefer Nyland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 There cannot have ever been a worse player than Gunnarsson to play in the PL. Not even Ali Dia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 I am convinced Tonev was worse than Dia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: There cannot have ever been a worse player than Gunnarsson to play in the PL. Not even Ali Dia. Yes there was - a certain ex - striker of ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I am convinced Tonev was worse than Dia At least Dia's story was amusing. Tonev was just shit from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Naby Keita (Liverpool) Vastly over-rated Edited December 22, 2018 by Villan4Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Xela said: At least Dia's story was amusing. Tonev was just shit from day 1. Dia actually got a shot on target in his only appearance, I don't think Tonev managed that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 How many stupid errors does Pickford need to make for people to see that he's the most overrated keeper in world football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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