Nicho Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Ousamane Dembele at Barcelona, how Dortmund got €100 million for him I will never know. Crap touch and if he didn't have pace I have no idea what level he would be at. suarez squared a ball to him on Saturday, his touch with his right went chest height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 OK not 'rubbish', but Hugo Lloris really has jumped the shark, most likely down to his drink driving, but his world cup final error also can't be overlooked. Entirely possible that he will recover his form, or, he could be on the path to becoming a total has-been, kind of like Joe Hart (although Lloris was of course much better than Hart in his pomp). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: OK not 'rubbish', but Hugo Lloris really has jumped the shark, most likely down to his drink driving, but his world cup final error also can't be overlooked. Entirely possible that he will recover his form, or, he could be on the path to becoming a total has-been, kind of like Joe Hart (although Lloris was of course much better than Hart in his pomp). He had a poor season last season as well, he is pushing 32 so probably coming to the end of his career now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 In a team that really isn't going to kick on and start winning major honours, just won the world cup, achieived the pinnacle, wouldn't be surprised if his standards slip further tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 i would lazily guess there are a few few spurs fans saying the same thing Spurs problem is city, liverpool and chelsea all set new benchmarks for keeper prices, you could even say arsenal and barca set a £20m+ benchmark for buying a reserve keeper for the future, not sure where they go, think they will find it hard to replace him, it wont be donnaruma or oblak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I don't know how Andros Townsend has carved out a top flight career from rifling in a 25 yarder once every 6 months. Not exactly a great provider of goals either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2018 Pogba. I mean he is decent but relative to his price tag and reputation he is rubbish. Every time I see him player he just doesn’t impress me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Pogba. I mean he is decent but relative to his price tag and reputation he is rubbish. Every time I see him player he just doesn’t impress me. A billion times over. Pogba and Lukaku costing over £160m is staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: A billion times over. Pogba and Lukaku costing over £160m is staggering. Lukaku isn’t even as good as Benteke was when he was with us. United have wasted so much money on some very average players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Pogba. I mean he is decent but relative to his price tag and reputation he is rubbish. Every time I see him player he just doesn’t impress me. Every now and again he looks totally brilliant, but for the most part you watch him thinking come on then, show me why you're worth the money. I'm waiting. Still waiting. Oh you've been subbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, MrDuck said: Every now and again he looks totally brilliant, but for the most part you watch him thinking come on then, show me why you're worth the money. I'm waiting. Still waiting. Oh you've been subbed. I can’t ever remember watching him and thinking he was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 pogba's price tag is based on his off field marketing rather than his on field ability and utd stick his face everywhere, not a clue how it works but he's been named the most marketable athlete in the world this year - http://www.sportspromedia.com/most-marketable i do think sometimes he suffers from the stat driven "watch" a game on paper way players are now judged, he's never going to impress in either goals or assists but he also almost definitely goes missing and hides behind jose and various not playing him right excuses, at times for me he just looks like he's not enjoying playing football for man utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Pogba is the ultimate footballing con artist, doesn't have anywhere near enough of an impact on football matches. One of the most overrated players in the history of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 He can do some good stuff on the pitch but is not a 90 minute player. He needs protection around him because he gets bored and goes for walks, he looked good at Juventus as he had world class players covering him and he had less responsibility. Same with France 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I know everyone has a downer on Nyland and plenty reckon he'll cost us the derby but whenever I see the SHA highlights Lee Camp always seems to be chucking a goal in, he let in two soft ones at Derby at the weekend. Wasn't he a rated keeper once, pretty sure has has England under 21 caps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I know everyone has a downer on Nyland and plenty reckon he'll cost us the derby but whenever I see the SHA highlights Lee Camp always seems to be chucking a goal in, he let in two soft ones at Derby at the weekend. Wasn't he a rated keeper once, pretty sure has has England under 21 caps? He used to be a really good cheap option on Football Manager back in 2004/2005, he had a potential rating of like 160-170 and you could get him for under a million. That said, he's clearly shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I know everyone has a downer on Nyland and plenty reckon he'll cost us the derby but whenever I see the SHA highlights Lee Camp always seems to be chucking a goal in, he let in two soft ones at Derby at the weekend. Wasn't he a rated keeper once, pretty sure has has England under 21 caps? He has Northern Ireland caps but seems another Bunn and in semi retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: He can do some good stuff on the pitch but is not a 90 minute player. He needs protection around him because he gets bored and goes for walks, he looked good at Juventus as he had world class players covering him and he had less responsibility. Same with France not sure where i posted it but in the game vs juventus the other week matic gave one of the most disgustingly lazy performances i've ever seen (which says a lot considering the shite villa have served up over the last 5 years) any midfielder wouldnt stand a chance with that alongside him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2018 12 hours ago, villa4europe said: pogba's price tag is based on his off field marketing rather than his on field ability and utd stick his face everywhere, not a clue how it works but he's been named the most marketable athlete in the world this year - http://www.sportspromedia.com/most-marketable i do think sometimes he suffers from the stat driven "watch" a game on paper way players are now judged, he's never going to impress in either goals or assists but he also almost definitely goes missing and hides behind jose and various not playing him right excuses, at times for me he just looks like he's not enjoying playing football for man utd I agree re stats. I went to Old Trafford for the Newcastle game and I was really interested to watch him in person. Frankly he wasn’t even the 2nd best midfielder on the pitch, Mata and Shelvey were far more influential. Yet MoTD would have you believe Pogba turned the game around, no chance it was almost entirely down to Mata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Trent Alexander Arnold. Consistently out of his depth defensively and looks like he isnt improving at all. Shame as he is quite a good footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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