Xela Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 19 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: *although as hinted at, it would be interesting to hear what the same people think of the appointment turn around time now Population has increased over 10% since 2005 - I bet there isn't 10% more surgeries or hospital, or even doctors and nurses today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Xela said: Population has increased over 10% since 2005 - I bet there isn't 10% more surgeries or hospital, or even doctors and nurses today. The demographics will have shifted to an older population as well. It makes the NHS cuts during the austerity years seem even more reckless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Xela said: Population has increased over 10% since 2005 - I bet there isn't 10% more surgeries or hospital, or even doctors and nurses today. If anything there is less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 There is a huge rebuilding job to do after the last 12 years of destruction but Labour have done it before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Starmer was giving genuinely one of his best speeches at the TUC Congress meeting this morning only for it to be cut off by the BBC to go to HoC as they were talking about Cruella resigning. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Starmer was giving genuinely one of his best speeches at the TUC Congress meeting this morning only for it to be cut off by the BBC to go to HoC as they were talking about Cruella resigning. Very frustrating. I’m sure he’s fine with the Tories stealing his thunder and using it to further destroy themselves. In fact I bet he can’t believe his luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Starmer was giving genuinely one of his best speeches at the TUC Congress meeting this morning only for it to be cut off by the BBC to go to HoC as they were talking about Cruella resigning. Very frustrating. Well, that was Labour's own fault. They were the ones that tabled the Special Question in the HoC over the Sue Ellen situation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2022 I'm a Labour member and will vote for them, but it **** hurts. That Akehurst chap is on the NEC; for me he represents everything that is wrong with Labour. If there's ever anything he's on the side of, go the other way. Unless it's the **** tories. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 hours ago, Ingram85 said: Starmer was giving genuinely one of his best speeches at the TUC Congress meeting this morning only for it to be cut off by the BBC to go to HoC as they were talking about Cruella resigning. Very frustrating. He's doing OK but pleading for a GE every second is not a good look. Desperate to have a go on the Playstation. He always does this, even the LIB dem bloke is asking for a GE like eager for some crumbs of seats. He must agree that if Labour were in the same position as the Tories they would not have a GE with the polls in their current state. Just sell it like "Every day the Tories do more damage, when the GE arrives Labour will be ready, we are ready now. It will be a monumental task yo get Britain back on its feet but we are more and more ready for the task every day" I just can't stand the pleading and the made up rubbish about what "Everyone" wants, he doesn't know this. Tactically, he should say less and watch more until the Tories implode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 hours ago, bickster said: Sue Ellen Was that the "Oil Baron's ball" incident or am I confused again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 21, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Was that the "Oil Baron's ball" incident or am I confused again. Braverman's real forenames are Sue Ellen. Suella is her own personal affectation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: Braverman's real forenames are Sue Ellen. Suella is her own personal affectation Wonder what inspired her to change it.... Oh right, yeah. She admired her can do attitude in skinning refuge....I mean puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 22 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: He's doing OK but pleading for a GE every second is not a good look. Desperate to have a go on the Playstation. He always does this, even the LIB dem bloke is asking for a GE like eager for some crumbs of seats. He must agree that if Labour were in the same position as the Tories they would not have a GE with the polls in their current state. Just sell it like "Every day the Tories do more damage, when the GE arrives Labour will be ready, we are ready now. It will be a monumental task yo get Britain back on its feet but we are more and more ready for the task every day" I just can't stand the pleading and the made up rubbish about what "Everyone" wants, he doesn't know this. Tactically, he should say less and watch more until the Tories implode. The media narrative of constantly giving air time to opposition party members asking for a GE is so boring. Every member of an opposition will always want a GE and absolutely no one in power right now would grant one. It's a waste of air time and it could be much better spending detabing and highlight issues that are impacting people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, cheltenham_villa said: The media narrative of constantly giving air time to opposition party members asking for a GE is so boring. Every member of an opposition will always want a GE and absolutely no one in power right now would grant one. It's a waste of air time and it could be much better spending detabing and highlight issues that are impacting people. Slightly different this time when you consider the polls. The country clearly have no faith or confidence in the tories. Its a disgrace that they get to keep doing what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 20/10/2022 at 23:12, Anthony said: I'm a Labour member and will vote for them, but it **** hurts. That Akehurst chap is on the NEC; for me he represents everything that is wrong with Labour. If there's ever anything he's on the side of, go the other way. Unless it's the **** tories. Yep, he’s a bellend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 9 hours ago, DCJonah said: Slightly different this time when you consider the polls. The country clearly have no faith or confidence in the tories. Its a disgrace that they get to keep doing what they're doing. Different or not, still a pointless question. They won't allow a GE, no one would in that position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, cheltenham_villa said: Different or not, still a pointless question. They won't allow a GE, no one would in that position. Anyone who puts country before party would. Tories have rammed down our throats for years how patriotic they are so you'd expect them to be all over wanting a GE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 11 hours ago, cheltenham_villa said: Different or not, still a pointless question. They won't allow a GE, no one would in that position. I'm not sure you can say that. Have we been in this sort of position before? The government polling the lowest in God knows how many years. Multiple prime ministers being forced to resign, whilst the economy gets **** up. As Mark said, anyone who put country first should be calling a GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I'm not sure you can say that. Have we been in this sort of position before? The government polling the lowest in God knows how many years. Multiple prime ministers being forced to resign, whilst the economy gets **** up. As Mark said, anyone who put country first should be calling a GE. The sad truth of politics. Parties will always put themselves before the greater good. This is true of both conservative and labour in my experience. Else they would on occasion find middle ground. Has a snap election ever been called for a reason other than to capitalise on a majority from the incumbent party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 23, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, cheltenham_villa said: Has a snap election ever been called for a reason other than to capitalise on a majority from the incumbent party? Yes and more than once The last time being Heath in 1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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