Isa Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hi Villatalk, Spurs fan here. Ask me anything about Tim Any positives you feel he can offer Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. Edited February 14, 2015 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) So why is he hated by many Spurs fans? You seemed to do OK under him after a shambolic start to the season, why is he derided? Edit - at a minimum you were exciting to watch. A combination of reasons. For one I think fans were just disappointed in general at how the season was going by the time AVB was fired and Sherwood took over, Spurs fans have always been a bit precious and just saw it as us giving up on the season instead of giving him a chance. Some believe that Sherwood was poisonous behind the scenes and helped AVB get sacked - personally I think he did that all by himself. Tim's personaility will rub a lot of people up the wrong way, he says everything as it is, some fans will like that and others would rather he were just like most other managers regurgitating stock answers. He lost 10 matches during his short tenure at Spurs with a much better team, quite an achievement. Pochettino has lost 8 in 25 so far in the premier league. Fairly similar records. Sherwood's record was worse than the bloke he replaced. He got found out very quickly and ditched by Spurs. An egotistical idiot and a tacticial dunce His total management career stretches 4 months and some are creaming themselves over him - beggars belief! Easily a bigger mistake than McLeish if he turns up which looks increasingly likely We have turned a respected, historic club into a complete laughing stock Sherwoods record was worse than avb? Not from what I've seen. AVB W17 D4 L5 Dim Sherwood W14 D4 L10 That record(AVB's) is heavily padded by 8 games against sunday league opposition in the early rounds of the Europa whilst Tim's [cup] record includes games against the likes of Arsenal, Dnipro and Benfica - slightly tougher opposition. League only Tim took 42 points from 22 games, AVB took 27 from 16. I don't normally take posters for gospel but this is a great mini-overview. Personally, I think his personality is exactly what we need right now. Edited February 14, 2015 by NSmith22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. So presumably if Sherwood fails it'll be Lambert's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. So presumably if Sherwood fails it'll be Lambert's fault? it all depends on standard of failure. If we go down this season it will be Lambert's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. The bloke has gone. Let it go. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. So presumably if Sherwood fails it'll be Lambert's fault? it all depends on standard of failure. If we go down this season it will be Lambert's fault To an extent, although it's not like we're cut adrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 We are only in the bottom three on goal difference, we aren't cut adrift or anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Has anyone mentioned his net spend yet? Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. Let it go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in.So presumably if Sherwood fails it'll be Lambert's fault? It depends how much damage Lambert has done to the confidence/morale of the squad. Edited February 14, 2015 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. We have an opportunity to change the fortunes of the club by employing a manager with tactical nous and experience, instead it appears we're taking the cheapest gamble out there. No wonder fans are frustrated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 14, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe if we didn't keep moving the goal posts and continuing to keep giving a failure manager time, which lots wanted. We'd be in a better position to get a decent manager. If we end up with Sherwood it's down to the state Lerner and Lambert have put us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. True Perhaps had we acted sooner Pulis would now be our manager and our premier league status would be guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. We have an opportunity to change the fortunes of the club by employing a manager with tactical nous and experience, instead it appears we're taking the cheapest gamble out there. No wonder fans are frustrated. Exactly. Why does it have to be turned into a pop at other fans? Lambert's gone, you should be delighted. Let it go. Edited February 14, 2015 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. We have an opportunity to change the fortunes of the club by employing a manager with tactical nous and experience, instead it appears we're taking the cheapest gamble out there. No wonder fans are frustrated. Why would that sort of manager want to come here right now though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. Poor manager based upon what? Because his record certainly isn't poor no matter how short it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. No one was saying giving him more time after Hull. This is pretty strange logic really - just because some people backed him for a long time doesn't mean they should be happy about Sherwood taking over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. True Perhaps had we acted sooner Pulis would now be our manager and our premier league status would be guaranteed Exactly. If he was sacked last summer or before Xmas, two times when he should have gone we'd be able to get much better than Sherwood. I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. Poor manager based upon what? Because his record certainly isn't poor no matter how short it is. Yeah wrong words, I'm actually fairly pleased with Sherwood. I meant that those annoyed about see him as a poor manager. I just can't believe the ones who kept saying give him more time are now outraged that a poor manager is heavily linked to the job. No one was saying giving him more time after Hull. This is pretty strange logic really - just because some people backed him for a long time doesn't mean they should be happy about Sherwood taking over. No but they should realise the state we're in because we gave him more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VanDerVaart Posted February 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hi Villatalk, Spurs fan here. Ask me anything about Tim Any positives you feel he can offer Villa? A lot. Short term he should give the club a lift and it will help if the fans buy into him and create a positive atmosphere. I think he's a good judge of player, when he came into Spurs, he favoured a young lad(Bentaleb) over far more experienced players with big reputations and price tags, it took a lot of balls to do that and he's been proven right as Bentaleb is now a key 1st team player for us over those established names, he also brought Kane in ahead of Soldado, a move which wasn't met positively with Spurs fans but again he's been proven more than correct on that one. I wouldn't like to guess where you'll end up this season if you were to hire him and there probably are safer options but long term I think he'll do a great job if he's given a chance. He 100% believes in developing young/home grown players over buying, he'll build a team that the fans find easy to get behind, any blasé players putting in minimal effort will quickly be shown the door - no matter who they are. He hates players who aren't good on the ball and he sets up to play attacking football - which could go some way to explaining why we had a high win % as well as a relatively high loss % and little in the way of draws while he was here. Anyway, I've met my posts limit for the day so this'll have to be the last one. I like him and if he is appointed it's good to see a young British manager getting a chance at a big club, he'll do well if you support and stick by him imo. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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