Brumstopdogs Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Agree with the vast majority of what Krulak said in relation to Lambert. Lambert had the time, he had the money and he made a poor job of it. Good riddance to him! Edited February 13, 2015 by Brumstopdogs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Agree with the vast majority of what Krulak said in relation to Lambert. Lambert had the time, he had the money and he made a poor job of it. Good riddance to him! While I'd agree in principle, it totally contradicts the narrative that has contionously been layed down by Lerner. After appallingly finishing with 38 points, Lerner instantly came out apologising for Lambert and effectively justifying the job he did by highlighting the supposed 'constraints' he had to work within. Lerner then left us in no doubt about how he viewed the job the manager was doing with the decision to reward him with the new contract. I'm sorry but this smacks of a pathetic attempt to try and exploit the [justified] anti-Lambert sentiment to try and improve Lerner's own credibility amongst the fanbase. Which only serves to reaffirm how out of touch the man actually is. Edited February 14, 2015 by Isa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2015 It sounds as though he wanted his contact mutually terminated last summer. Why on earth that didn't happen is anybody's guess. His heart clearly wasn't in it, when a manager stops backing himself then it's already too late. The new contract too! Crazy. Another £2m mistake by Lerner. Was it a £2m mistake? I'm assuming Lambert's pay off is 12 months pay? Lambert was contracted until 2016 anyway wasn't he? So even if we'd sacked him at the same time but on his old contract I assume we'd have still had to pay him at least a year's salary to do so (maybe even all of what was remaining, so 15/16 months?) I imagine the new contract was just a pay rise. And given the remit that Lambert claimed to have, it was probably justified (as mad as that may seem to some). So I'm guessing (as I don't know either way) it's cost us 5 months of whatever the difference was between Lambert's old wages and his new wages. Which probably doesn't come to an awful lot of money (relatively speaking obviously) Happy to be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 His contract was originally set to expire this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Agree with the vast majority of what Krulak said in relation to Lambert. Lambert had the time, he had the money and he made a poor job of it. Good riddance to him! While I'd agree in principle, it totally contradicts the narrative that has contionously been layed down by Lerner. After appallingly finishing with 38 points, Lerner instantly came out apologising for Lambert and effectively justifying the job he did by highlighting the supposed 'constraints' he had to work within. Lerner then left us in no doubt about how he viewed the job the manager was doing with the decision to reward him with the new contract. I'm sorry but this smacks of a pathetic attempt to try and exploit the [justified] anti-Lambert sentiment to try and improve Lerner's own credibility amongst the fanbase. Which only serves to reaffirm how out of touch the man actually is. Yep. And badly out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Could somebody direct me to this stuff about Lambert asking Lerner to sack him? I can't fully understand the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Really has left our club in a mess. Quite possibly worst manager in our history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Really has left our club in a mess. Quite possibly worst manager in our history. He should have left the club in the summer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I applaud the fact that he tried to implement a new passing style, but that second half today proved it should have been dropped straight away because the hoof ball gives us a better chance. If we carried on with the kick and rush we probably wouldn't be in the bottom 3 and Lambert would still have a job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I applaud the fact that he tried to implement a new passing style, but that second half today proved it should have been dropped straight away because the hoof ball gives us a better chance. If we carried on with the kick and rush we probably wouldn't be in the bottom 3 and Lambert would still have a job. We didnt just hoof today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I applaud the fact that he tried to implement a new passing style, but that second half today proved it should have been dropped straight away because the hoof ball gives us a better chance. If we carried on with the kick and rush we probably wouldn't be in the bottom 3 and Lambert would still have a job. Ironically I'm pretty sure it was Fox who told Lambert to change style. I don't think he'll be telling Sherwood that somehow, certainly not this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I applaud the fact that he tried to implement a new passing style, but that second half today proved it should have been dropped straight away because the hoof ball gives us a better chance. If we carried on with the kick and rush we probably wouldn't be in the bottom 3 and Lambert would still have a job. We didnt just hoof today. Didn't say we did, but when we did we looked a lot better second half, long ball to benteke to knock down for the oncoming support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I applaud the fact that he tried to implement a new passing style, but that second half today proved it should have been dropped straight away because the hoof ball gives us a better chance. If we carried on with the kick and rush we probably wouldn't be in the bottom 3 and Lambert would still have a job. We didnt just hoof today. Didn't say we did, but when we did we looked a lot better second half, long ball to benteke to knock down for the oncoming support. When you have a guy like Benteke get him invloved early - that was what we tried to do 2nd half.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Why Lambert never played to Benteke's strengths when we were fighting for goals. will remain one of the great mysteries of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Very good video on sky sports soccer Saturday that started by focusing on why he was sacked but spent a good few minutes highlighting the positives from he's reign. After watching it I think this sums up my feelings Edited February 15, 2015 by Jimzk5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Some Sunderland fans phoned up on Five Live wanting Poyet gone!! a few suggested Lambert as new manager Edited February 15, 2015 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The sad thing about Lambert is that when he came here he had a history of exciting attacking football but by the end of his tenure we were playing such dour defensive football comparable to McLeish. We seemed quite attacking for most of his first season (which was often our undoing) but gradually over time we got more and more defensive. I still don't believe that Lambert is a defensive manager at heart but for whatever reason the life got sucked out of him. My guess is he was still haunted by the drubbings we received in his first season and that horrific run at the end of last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The sad thing about Lambert is that when he came here he had a history of exciting attacking football but by the end of his tenure we were playing such dour defensive football comparable to McLeish. We seemed quite attacking for most of his first season (which was often our undoing) but gradually over time we got more and more defensive. I still don't believe that Lambert is a defensive manager at heart but for whatever reason the life got sucked out of him. My guess is he was still haunted by the drubbings we received in his first season and that horrific run at the end of last season. Our attacking play got destroyed after Keanes arrival, after Keanes arrival we never looked like the team we once were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The sad thing about Lambert is that when he came here he had a history of exciting attacking football but by the end of his tenure we were playing such dour defensive football comparable to McLeish. We seemed quite attacking for most of his first season (which was often our undoing) but gradually over time we got more and more defensive. I still don't believe that Lambert is a defensive manager at heart but for whatever reason the life got sucked out of him. My guess is he was still haunted by the drubbings we received in his first season and that horrific run at the end of last season. There's no doubt in my mind that the drubbings and near relegation in his first season changed his approach to how we played in the second season and this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The sad thing about Lambert is that when he came here he had a history of exciting attacking football but by the end of his tenure we were playing such dour defensive football comparable to McLeish. We seemed quite attacking for most of his first season (which was often our undoing) but gradually over time we got more and more defensive. I still don't believe that Lambert is a defensive manager at heart but for whatever reason the life got sucked out of him. My guess is he was still haunted by the drubbings we received in his first season and that horrific run at the end of last season. ironically and hard to believe but when McLeish started out as a manager his teams were known for vibrant attacking football especially at Hibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts