TonyDaley Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Can't blame Lambert for today, yes he could have got them pushing further up the pitch and could have tried playing a little more expansively a little earlier, but alot of that is hindsight. I guess the idea was to keep it tight and then try and nick it but having only 10 men was always going to make it hard. There is a vast difference from having a player sent off in the 20th minute than the 80th as to how you approach the game. A shame really as WBA are shit and I'm pretty certain we would have got something from the game with 11 players on the pitch. 11 or 10 men, do you not think we could have won if we didnt play to nick a goal and hold on, i can sort of understand that approach against a team on top form or one of the big 6 but if we dont try and win 8 times out of 10 we wont win. Edited December 13, 2014 by TonyDaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Dont worry, we just go again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted December 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Looking solely at today I can't fault Lambert. We were on top until Richardson stupidly got himself sent off. Even then we were containing WBA pretty well and had Guzan claimed a cross he should have and Benteke, who was very poor, got the two very good half chances he had on target the result still could easily have been a positive one. Being picky when down to 10 men wasn't the time to be trying to play it out from the back as we simply ended up inviting more pressure on ourselves as with the extra man Albion were always going to close us down quickly. Lambert should have quickly told them to cut it out. Going forward we now have two big tests in Man Utd and Swansea and then three very winnable games against Sunderland and Palace at home and Leicester away. There is no reason today's result should knock confidence and hopefully we can still kick on from a half decent base and come the end of the next handful of games be sitting comfortably mid table. Of course being a realist we could just as easily be back in deep shit and Lambert could again be getting dogs abuse. In terms of this season the next handful of games is therefore a bit of a crossroads. Over to you Paul. Edited December 13, 2014 by markavfc40 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted December 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2014 The way some people are talking you'd think we were the team with a man advantage. Richardson's sending off ruined everything. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The way some people are talking you'd think we were the team with a man advantage. Richardson's sending off ruined everything. Yeah but at least we are scoring goals now Benteke is back.....................oooh hang on a minute??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert: "I'm disappointed but I felt we did well with 10 men. "The sending-off (Kieran Richardson) changed the course of the game. I don't think there was any malice in it but I can understand why the ref's sent him off. If you go in with your studs you leave yourself open for that. "I think we are playing well at the moment. When you lose any game it's not nice.We have to regroup and go on. It's a boost to have Fabian Delph and Ron Vlaar back." Someone's got a new catchphrase ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 13, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2014 Didn't watch the game today but can't fault Lambert. I would have played Richardson instead of Delph, and I'm glad Vlaar didn't walk straight back into the team. Not too disappointed with the result today given the fact we were down to 10 men after 20 minutes. Disappointed in Richardson though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Can't see us getting much (if anything) out of our next 2 games against Man Utd and Swansea. Lets see how we do against Sunderland, Palace and Leicester as these are some the teams we are going to be battling with to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Very low expectations if we think losing to a shite West Brom team is a good performance, even with 10 men I expected a clean sheet at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The worrying stat for me is a goal every 144 minutes. It doesn't matter if we have 10 or 11 players, I'm not very confident we are going to score. Not a fan of Lambert, but I won't blame him for today's overall result. I think we need to move away from the three up to unless we get two out and out wingers to supply Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 13, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2014 Very low expectations if we think losing to a shite West Brom team is a good performance, even with 10 men I expected a clean sheet at the very least. Why would you expect a clean sheet in a game which is 10 v 11 for 70 minutes? I know the Baggies aren't the best but we're hardly much better, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Gabby - Benteke - Weimann Cleverly - Sanchez - Delph Cissokho - Clark - Okore - Hutton we will return to the above vs Manure, we'll lose as three central midfielders and Weimann playing in defence won't get us results, but at least with that team we could snatch a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDaley Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Gabby - Benteke - Weimann Cleverly - Sanchez - Delph Cissokho - Clark - Okore - Hutton we will return to the above vs Manure, we'll lose as three central midfielders and Weimann playing in defence won't get us results, but at least with that team we could snatch a goal. I think with todays subs we will see Vlaar back in the starting 11 - prob for okore. Just to be clear thats not what i would do, just what i think lambert will. I think he will go with: Guzan Hutton. Vlaar. Clarke. Cissokho. Sanchez. Cleverly. Delph. (All playing DM) N'Zogbia. Agbonlahor. Weimann Benteke I would go Guzan Hutton. Okore. Clarke. Cissokho Sanchez Bacuna. Delph. Cleverley Weimann Benteke We will go to hold on and maybe nick a goal........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Certainly, we've changed our style of play. Unfortunately, we don't have midfielders creative enough to make use of possession, nor to we have attackers good enough to supply Benteke. A change in the right direction, but one that probably should have happened over summer when there was time to get the right players in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Bang on Carew. Much as i am not convinced by PL, unless he is given the opportunity to buy at least 2 reasonable attackers, then i think it will be difficult to judge him properley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Not really interested in blaming anyone for this poor result....its all been said....its someone different every week, but hey its a team game. Lets face it 2 teams that blow so hot and cold its untrue..its very difficult to get any kind of analysis from these 2 I have real difficulty in seeing any progress in our lot....It seems no matter who we sign the same old problems exist. On a note of down to 10 men....theoretically it is a disadvantage, but annoyingly when it happens against us they raise their game to compensate. can't put my finger on it, but there is something really wrong with our set up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Not really interested in blaming anyone for this poor result....its all been said....its someone different every week, but hey its a team game. Lets face it 2 teams that blow so hot and cold its untrue..its very difficult to get any kind of analysis from these 2 I have real difficulty in seeing any progress in our lot....It seems no matter who we sign the same old problems exist. On a note of down to 10 men....theoretically it is a disadvantage, but annoyingly when it happens against us they raise their game to compensate. can't put my finger on it, but there is something really wrong with our set up. I agree here, we always seem to be very messy in shape and style. This is why I thought (previously) a change of manager would be a positive. Not because Lambert is totally shite, just really to see a manager install a new style, tactics and philosphy into the squad. For me we rarely see a consistant performance/style from the team and this can only be down to the coaching and management. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 For you stats junkies out there: we had 431 passes today against their 394. With 10 men for 70 minutes. Hoof-tastic 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Dont blame him for today at all. Just hope this isn't the start of another load of shit results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted December 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) On a note of down to 10 men....theoretically it is a disadvantage, but annoyingly when it happens against us they raise their game to compensate. I think today a fair few of them did. However a few of the lads let us and their manager down today. Richardson obviously for a stupid, and needless, challenge. On top of that Guzan for not claiming a cross he should have and for his all round poor distribution, Benteke who simply wasn't at the races and failed to get two very decent half chances on target and, although I am one of his biggest fans, Gabby who made some poor choices when in possession. We are a team who, when every player is at the top of their game, are a match for most. When down to 10 men though we needed all of them to be on it and when a number of them aren't, no matter what the manger does or says, we were always likely to struggle. As it was maybe due to a combination of the other lads putting a shift in, the mangers tactics and the standard of the opposition, we were still in with a shout today of getting something from the game right up until the final whistle. Edited December 13, 2014 by markavfc40 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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