Con Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Maybe I'm a bit behind, but is that how Kozak got injured? Got injured in training. I read on these forums it was in a challenge with Ciaran Clark. I'm sure it was pure accident, one of those freak injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I thought it was a freak injury, bad landing or something , oh well these things happen. Anyway I'm off to bed. UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Reading all those bad buys at other teams and the millions it cost them, puts into perspective how consistantly good Lambert has been in the transfer market. Season 1 Benteke Westwood Vlaar Season 2 Kozak Bacuna Okore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Reading all those bad buys at other teams and the millions it cost them, puts into perspective how consistantly good Lambert has been in the transfer market. Season 1 Benteke Westwood Vlaar Season 2 Kozak Bacuna OkoreNot convinced this post is cogent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 It looks to be mortally wounded for me and Im not sure he has the fight in him for another season. If there is no takeover and no increase investment from the owner he would be best walking as ultimately we will be relegated next season anyway. I've seen this a lot on here and I'm not sure I totally agree. Let's say Lambert get's 3 £7m players in the summer, let's say a LB and two central midfielders, one more defensive and one more a trequartista. Add to that Benteke, Okore, Kozak, Carruthers, Gardner, Zog and Gabby back to fitness. Plus Grealish, Robinson and maybe DJ and one or two more pushing through from the academy and the current crop being a year older and wiser. I'd say we'd be mid-table barring another Culverhouse/Karsa mental happening and a crazy injury crisis or two. Hmmm- has any of our kids bar Gabby been good enough to play for any other side in the prem in the last 10 years? I don't think hoping the kids will be alright is a good tactic any more. I won't get fooled again on that one. Gardener (Blunderland), Cahill (Chelsea), Bannan (Palace). Davies(Southampton), Ridgewell(West Brazil). Gareth Barry (Everton). Peter Wittingham (Cardiff). Daniel Sturridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alipali Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Let's aim for 14th next year - won't that be an improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Get rid -----------------------------------------------------neutral-------------------------------------------------------------keep him Big john10------------------------------------------------nobody on VT----------------me----------------------------------villa rev That's as close as I hope to get to labelling anyone. (Apologies to big john and VR if I misrepresent or offend..... But since I didn't misrepresent, sorry if I offend.) Edited May 9, 2014 by srsmithusa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Paul Lamberts signings were mostly scouted and picked by Karsa/Culverhouse were they not? or they handled the transfers?With his team gone.. A lot of his plans go out the window. So will his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Let's aim for 14th next year - won't that be an improvement? If we get a win against spurs we might manage 12th this season Paul Lamberts signings were mostly scouted and picked by Karsa/Culverhouse were they not? or they handled the transfers? With his team gone.. A lot of his plans go out the window. I assume he's got a pretty big list, even if those 2 drew it up. We've probably still got Houllier's list knocking around too Edited May 9, 2014 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Paul Lamberts signings were mostly scouted and picked by Karsa/Culverhouse were they not? or they handled the transfers? With his team gone.. A lot of his plans go out the window. So will his job. I'm guessing some were scouted by Michael Henke as well before he left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's Davis not Davies. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 9, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2014 It looks to be mortally wounded for me and Im not sure he has the fight in him for another season. If there is no takeover and no increase investment from the owner he would be best walking as ultimately we will be relegated next season anyway. I've seen this a lot on here and I'm not sure I totally agree. Let's say Lambert get's 3 £7m players in the summer, let's say a LB and two central midfielders, one more defensive and one more a trequartista. Add to that Benteke, Okore, Kozak, Carruthers, Gardner, Zog and Gabby back to fitness. Plus Grealish, Robinson and maybe DJ and one or two more pushing through from the academy and the current crop being a year older and wiser. I'd say we'd be mid-table barring another Culverhouse/Karsa mental happening and a crazy injury crisis or two. Hmmm- has any of our kids bar Gabby been good enough to play for any other side in the prem in the last 10 years? I don't think hoping the kids will be alright is a good tactic any more. I won't get fooled again on that one. Gardener (Blunderland), Cahill (Chelsea), Bannan (Palace). Davies(Southampton), Ridgewell(West Brazil). Gareth Barry (Everton). Peter Wittingham (Cardiff). Daniel Sturridge Yup I think Sturridge counts too There's actually loads in the last few years. Plus coming through at Arsenal there's Crowley who is our product, Carruthers before the injury looked good on loan, Grealish done wonders at Notts County and has had a run out, Robinson getting some time on the pitch too.... It's actually known as a good academy for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 9, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2014 Paul Lamberts signings were mostly scouted and picked by Karsa/Culverhouse were they not? or they handled the transfers? With his team gone.. A lot of his plans go out the window. So will his job. I don't see why a manager can't change his coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 It looks to be mortally wounded for me and Im not sure he has the fight in him for another season. If there is no takeover and no increase investment from the owner he would be best walking as ultimately we will be relegated next season anyway. I've seen this a lot on here and I'm not sure I totally agree. Let's say Lambert get's 3 £7m players in the summer, let's say a LB and two central midfielders, one more defensive and one more a trequartista. Add to that Benteke, Okore, Kozak, Carruthers, Gardner, Zog and Gabby back to fitness. Plus Grealish, Robinson and maybe DJ and one or two more pushing through from the academy and the current crop being a year older and wiser. I'd say we'd be mid-table barring another Culverhouse/Karsa mental happening and a crazy injury crisis or two. Hmmm- has any of our kids bar Gabby been good enough to play for any other side in the prem in the last 10 years? I don't think hoping the kids will be alright is a good tactic any more. I won't get fooled again on that one. Gardener (Blunderland), Cahill (Chelsea), Bannan (Palace). Davies(Southampton), Ridgewell(West Brazil). Gareth Barry (Everton). Peter Wittingham (Cardiff). Daniel Sturridge Yup I think Sturridge counts too There's actually loads in the last few years. Plus coming through at Arsenal there's Crowley who is our product, Carruthers before the injury looked good on loan, Grealish done wonders at Notts County and has had a run out, Robinson getting some time on the pitch too.... It's actually known as a good academy for a reason. Don't think Sturridge counts (he left at 14) and Carruthers would be Arsenal. The rest I agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 9, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2014 Fair enough, if Crowley is ours then Carruthers is their work I spose. Still the point remains though, without getting sidetracked, with a few £7-10m buys, introducing the new youth players and free from injury I don't see why we can't finish top half next year. Even without a devastating new flavour of pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Stupid to sack the best manager since Ron Saunders. I'd be suprised if you were alive when saunders was our manager with that statement. I'd be suprised if you are old enough to have learned the meaning of the expression 'rebuilding job'. Edited May 9, 2014 by momo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Fair enough, if Crowley is ours then Carruthers is their work I spose. Still the point remains though, without getting sidetracked, with a few £7-10m buys, introducing the new youth players and free from injury I don't see why we can't finish top half next year. Even without a devastating new flavour of pie. People were saying the same about Clark, Albrighton , Banan a few seasons back. To me packing out our first team with youth products will get us relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Stupid to sack the best manager since Ron Saunders. I'd be suprised if you were alive when saunders was our manager with that statement. I'd be suprised if you are old enough to have learned the meaning of the expression 'rebuilding job'. Rebuilding or demolition?! Im old enough to have seen many things down the villa and intelligent enough to realise mentioning lambert in the same breath as saunders is just plain stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Paul Lamberts signings were mostly scouted and picked by Karsa/Culverhouse were they not? or they handled the transfers? With his team gone.. A lot of his plans go out the window. So will his job. What was Lambert doing when C & K were there? Reading the Beano, eating Monster Munch and drinking Irn Bru all day? Either that or his golf handicap must be very low? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Fair enough, if Crowley is ours then Carruthers is their work I spose. Still the point remains though, without getting sidetracked, with a few £7-10m buys, introducing the new youth players and free from injury I don't see why we can't finish top half next year. Even without a devastating new flavour of pie. People were saying the same about Clark, Albrighton , Banan a few seasons back. To me packing out our first team with youth products will get us relegated. Think it's the first time I have agreed with you, the fans have a tendency to overrate our own youth. We have good youth teams, but for a long time we haven't produced a player where I thought to myself wow this kid. For example I watch Stones at Everton and immediately you can see the kid is class, granted he was purchased but you can she his reading of the game is head and shoulders above Baker and Clark. I remember Lambert made a point, Robinson comes onto a huge reception, he tries to control the ball and his first touch takes it straight out of play and he gets cheers, I understand the support element, but I want to cheer a kid who can at the very least control the ball and do something special. I'm not knocking Robinson as I do think he will be a good player, just the way we have already hyped up our kids before they even kick a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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