villaglint Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Pretty sure he is giving the all the proceeds of the book to not for profit social enterprises so you can view it as buying a really expensive Red Nose if that makes you feel any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Pretty sure he is giving the all the proceeds of the book to not for profit social enterprises so you can view it as buying a really expensive Red Nose if that makes you feel any better. his website sates "All net profit from sales will be donated to the Russell Brand Foundation" .. but that only seems to be selling t-shirts depends how creative your expensive accountant is in coming up with the "net" figure I guess those penthouse flats don't come cheap you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I just don't get the hate or the claim it's all about self promotion. The guy was in the paper all the time years ago for drinking and sleeping around. Surely it would be easier to self promote with that than actually going out of his way to help people. And I don't know why people keep focusing on his fame and wealth. Would anyone listen to his ideas if he wasn't rich and famous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 No. He is an entitled ponce that is purely flogging a book that has a theme that fits in with his current posturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 10, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2014 Even bad people can be right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted December 10, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 No. He is an entitled ponce that is purely flogging a book that has a theme that fits in with his current posturing. He certainly can't be described as entitled and the 'current posturing' you refer to are the essentially the same views he held before fame. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demitri_C Posted December 10, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 The media need something to attack brand on as he is a big threat to society in the eyes of them tryng to take the corruption down. Soon some kind of smear/lie campaign will begin against brand i gurantee it. They try destroy people if they dont like what they represent and who try turning people 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villaglint Posted December 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2014 I get that people think he is a bit of a bellend, fair enough I quite often think that about him myself, but I'm pretty sure if you thought hard enough you could think that about anyone. In terms of what he is saying I find myself agreeing with virtually all of it, though he is saying nothing new and offering no answers at least he is promoting a debate that has been hushed up for too long. And more importantly he is promoting it in a new way which is connecting with a part of society that is really disconnected to politics yet he is drawing them into a robust political debate. Whether he will change anything I highly doubt it but at the end of the day he is trying and helping whoever he can along the way. I wont knock him for doing that. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 11, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 11, 2014 He probably is a hypocrite I don't see how. Bit of an egotist, maybe. Hypocrite? How so? Man earning a lot of money from comedy, film and TV is still permitted to hold left wing views and attack 'the establishment'. Tony Benn was seen as coming from the establishment (his background was anyway). But he still hated it, and committed his life to rallying against it. I agree with what you have said i'm just playing devils advocate really. Having said that i don't think he has done himself any favour by trying to flog a book for 20 quid while claiming that socially inequality and material possessions etc.. are something we need to get away from. I don't believe he's said we need to get away from material possessions as such, more that we needn't be bullied into making them more important than, say, food if that's all we can afford. I also fail to see why he can't also have his chosen career whilst trying to do some good. I'm listening to the audiobook at the moment and he makes some great points, delivering them in a way that most ordinary non-political folk can relate to. He's not promoting Communism, just strongly against rich people crapping all over the poor. The trouble is they've done such a good job of it that the poor are largely now convinced that it's ok. It's almost as if we're being held captive by the establishment and have developed Stockholm Syndrome... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If it takes Russell Brand to engage young people in the political process then so be it. If young people did vote and were politically active, some of the issues he discusses could be addressed. The likes of The Sun trivialise news reporting to the extent that many young people care more about who to vote out of the jungle than who to run their country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 But do you think it would work if everyone was equaly no rich and poor? i dont think it would as there is too much greed in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If it takes Russell Brand to engage young people in the political process then so be it. If young people did vote and were politically active, some of the issues he discusses could be addressed. The likes of The Sun trivialise news reporting to the extent that many young people care more about who to vote out of the jungle than who to run their country. Yeah that's bang on, pretty sad state of affairs when people are more actively engaged in who to vote out of the jungle or big brother. That's how disillusioned and un-engaged we have become as a society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted December 11, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2014 If I'm going to listen to a comedian on politics, I'll take Izzard every day of the week. He has a thought-out stance and only speaks out of concern - not a hint of self-promotion in it. He knows he has an amount of popularity but his interest is only to make the country a better place. I don't know all the details of what he stands for, or whether I'd agree with it if I did but whenever I've heard him talk about his political ambition, I am always genuinely impressed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why can you only listen to one? Though I agree I'm also a big fan of Izzard the comedian, mega runner and his views (that I've heard) on politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted December 11, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2014 But do you think it would work if everyone was equaly no rich and poor? i dont think it would as there is too much greed in the world I'm not sure that is what he or anyone is advocating Dem. The point is that the greed of the few is being allowed to dominate politics to such an extent that the average man is forgotten or not really even considered. The political system is supposed to represent as well as govern the people, at the moment it represents a elite few and corporations at the expense of the people and governs that they conform. That isn't right, it isn't just and it shouldn't be accepted and people like Brand shouldn't be vilified by 'newspaper's and organisations such as The Sun that are apparatus of those benefiting from this corrupt system while masquerading as the paper of the people. Its laughable in its hypocrisy but sadly a large percentage of the population are too stupid or lazy to get this or think for themselves and so lap up the personal attacks on Brand because he can be a little annoying at times. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted December 11, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why can you only listen to one? Though I agree I'm also a big fan of Izzard the comedian, mega runner and his views (that I've heard) on politics Not saying that you can only listen to one - just saying that whilst I have a lot of sympathy with much of Brand's message, I don't feel that it's as genuine and selfless as it could be. Then again, politics these days is all about self-promotion and self-interest, so he's probably ideally suited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Should be interesting with him and Farage on Question Time tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The kipper might well do him like one, sadly. Farage will have been well prepped by an army of well paid staff and researchers. Rusky will probably be doing it by himself. Still, I hope he gets a good few blows against the establishment in. This won't just be Rusky vs faberge. It will be Rusky vs all the political parties, including labour. Dunno who's on the panel other than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I hope he shows them up good and proper Will definitely be tuning in for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If it takes Russell Brand to engage young people in the political process then so be it. If young people did vote and were politically active, some of the issues he discusses could be addressed. The likes of The Sun trivialise news reporting to the extent that many young people care more about who to vote out of the jungle than who to run their country. You do realise that Brand was telling people NOT to vote? Quite the opposite of what you seem to think he's suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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