VillaGoMarching Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This probably could have gone in the small Heath thread but wanted to get something cleared up.In my life time as a villa fan (20 years), the term 'blue nose' has always been a derogatory term in my eyes. My friends and family have always used as such.So I've been to the German market this week and seen all sorts of paraphernalia, with blue nose scrawled on. Gingerbread, Santa hats etc. while all the villa stuff had 'Aston villa' on it.So is this an attempt by small Heath fans to reclaim the term or have they always used the term as a form of endearment (sick)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Blues fans self identify as bluenoses and have done for years. The fact that you see it as a pejorative term has little bearing on the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 14, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2013 I always saw it as something they identify with, but something that we throw at them insultingly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Everton have also used the term. I spotted it painted on a wall when I was in the home end at Goodison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I just call them clearings in the woods 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Heathens is my word of choice for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Blosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This probably could have gone in the small Heath thread Yep it should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I just call them clearings in the woods Add "half witted" and it sums them up nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I think it's because the council won't let them write 'fucktard' on biscuits or cakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) They painted the nose blue on a statue huge head near the tip. They accept and enjoy the term blue nose. Edited December 14, 2013 by Electric Avenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 'Tards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Wipe that snot off the end of ya nose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 You do realise some of the arguments about why "your team is better" are almost completely mirrored by Richard Dawkins God delusion. At a higher level, its 11 men from around the world, picked by a man who could be from anywhere, with a work record of all sorts of imtermediate places, who happens to be temporarilly at the one you pay to see. That "team" is owned by a business person or company who think they can leverage their financial knowledge to make money out of you. Getting bogged down in abuse of people who just happen to spend money supporting 11 different men from round the world, assembled by a different man under a different business person with whom you also have nothing in common but a temporary geographic location is a bit pointless. You're probably a Villa fan, because your dad was, or some other influence. If you'd been born 3 miles further south, west you'd be a bluenose yourself. Or a baggie. Or a manu fan. Or Crawley Town. Or River Plate or Grampus 8. No point giving anything other than respect, to someone with whom you probably have more culturally shared things in common due to your socio-econoimic group and race/religion and gender, than some arbitary label applied due to some trivial difference in upbringing. If you choose to support the Villa, thats fine. Spend your energies on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 15, 2013 Way to try and take the fun out of being a football fan :-) Part of it is rivalry and tribalism. It doesn't always make sense but there you go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 These are Glasgow Rangers' fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Way to try and take the fun out of being a football fan :-) Part of it is rivalry and tribalism. It doesn't always make sense but there you go. Exactly. Even if it is trivial, it`s a part of what football really is. If you look at it like that then you might as well be a glory hunter because you get better experiences that way. I do get the point but it`s a look that I don`t really get. I also believe that most clubs enjoy it much more if a local person coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Rivalry is great fun but anger and hate is utterly brainless and reflects worse on the person doing the abusing than the abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 You do realise some of the arguments about why "your team is better" are almost completely mirrored by Richard Dawkins God delusion. At a higher level, its 11 men from around the world, picked by a man who could be from anywhere, with a work record of all sorts of imtermediate places, who happens to be temporarilly at the one you pay to see. That "team" is owned by a business person or company who think they can leverage their financial knowledge to make money out of you. Getting bogged down in abuse of people who just happen to spend money supporting 11 different men from round the world, assembled by a different man under a different business person with whom you also have nothing in common but a temporary geographic location is a bit pointless. You're probably a Villa fan, because your dad was, or some other influence. If you'd been born 3 miles further south, west you'd be a bluenose yourself. Or a baggie. Or a manu fan. Or Crawley Town. Or River Plate or Grampus 8. No point giving anything other than respect, to someone with whom you probably have more culturally shared things in common due to your socio-econoimic group and race/religion and gender, than some arbitary label applied due to some trivial difference in upbringing. If you choose to support the Villa, thats fine. Spend your energies on that. Away with you! This makes far too much sense for a football discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2013 I agree with Juju. But I also agree with BOF. Cognitive dissonance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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