chappy Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Guzan has a very accurate kick He can pick out his favourite steward in the Trinity Road end! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted October 5, 2013 Author Share Posted October 5, 2013 Guzan has a very accurate kick, and Benteke wins flick ons or, better still, brings the ball down and holds it up 9 times out of 10. Sorry, but the only ratio I can think of which ends 9/10 is Benteke's flick-ons ending up to an opposing player! Far from being a guarantee it's a surrender:- "we can't play football, so we'll hoof it and see how you deal with it" sometimes it does come off but we surrender so much possession our defence will always be under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botak Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 The reason we hit lots of long passes is that our movement off the ball is terrible. Look at how many players are in a position to receive a pass at any given time, usually it's not many. We are good on the counter attack when we hit balls into space for players to run on to, but when in posession in normal play, we have poor movement and we aren't that good at passing and don't have a great first touch either. Against teams that press us, we lose the ball frequently or end up having to pass back to a defender/keeper to hoof the ball up the park. We don't set out to play a long ball game, but are often reduced to it simply because we don't have options on the pitch. We don't move teams around much and struggle to get behind teams unless we are on the break. Wish we had loaned Barry, as he always gives an option to receive a pass. But, ultimately, it is a team wide problem rather than something that would be fixed by 1 player. Except Benteke, we don't have many players with particularly good football intelligence. So as a team, we lack certain qualities and I don't see this changing without 2/3 high quality additions to the midfield and wide players. Otherwise, we will be limited to scoring most of our goals on the break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) I hate it when they play the ball back to Guzan so much and from so deep in the attacking zone too. Is Guzan our best passer? Edited October 7, 2013 by AVTuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I hate it when they play the ball back to Guzan so much and from so deep in the attacking zone too. Is Guzan our best passer? According to Whoscored he is the best long ball passer in the league, with 9 accurate long balls per game - matched only by Jagielka. We don't feature in the "Passing Success" table until number 80 & 81 (El Ahmadi and Vlaar) so the tactic of passing it back to Guzan may not be so barking mad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StigVillan Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I'm going to say NO in reply to this thread and point to everyone else's posts as elaboration on that matter. Edited October 16, 2013 by StigVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2013 I hate it when they play the ball back to Guzan so much and from so deep in the attacking zone too. Is Guzan our best passer? According to Whoscored he is the best long ball passer in the league, with 9 accurate long balls per game - matched only by Jagielka. We don't feature in the "Passing Success" table until number 80 & 81 (El Ahmadi and Vlaar) so the tactic of passing it back to Guzan may not be so barking mad... It's still infuriating at times. And embarrasing at others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2013 At home. Definitely yes. Were so direct. It's pretty shit to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 20, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2013 No. Stoke can take corners and freekicks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yes yes yes, sorry I'll be watching Raw in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It's an insult to Stoke tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I laughed at this thread when I first saw it. - I would have to say its a 'yes' now though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 HOOF! It is a shambles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It should be renamed 'Are we turning into the old Stoke' as the new Stoke make an attempt to play actual football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I too laughed at this thread...given how earlier in the season it popped up I only had to think back to the last 3 months of last season which we finished with a bit of style including a 3-1 win at Stoke where we played very well. This season we have been horrible for about 90% I'm sad to say. First three games weren't too bad given the opposition and we've had a half here and there since like Everton but overall the football has declined significantly. It's a concern particularly as the fixtures on paper have become easier over the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Can't believe that im more inclined to agree with this thread after laughing at it earlier this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 We play much worse than stoke at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Crystal Palace are the new Stoke [/thread over] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I too laughed at the OP when this thread first started. At the moment it seems he was just ahead of the curve. I sincerely apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Last in the league in possession, last in total passes and last in successful passes having played almost half of the season. If McLeish had served that he'd be hanged. Results are OK though. Still, if Mcleish had served that he'd hanged and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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