AVFCforever1991 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) I think a lot of international managers are disliked by their nations fans Edited September 11, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooh-Ah Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Who even plays 4-4-2 anymore? Who put in that cross for Kozak's goal? Quality. Rosicky made a really great pass to Jiracek who delivered the cross. Jiracek is a really good midfielder but he has been injured for nearly a year. You guys looking for a new manager now as well. I hear Trapattoni is available We will likely go Czech but I honestly wouldn't mind Trapattoni. Anyone would be better than what we had. Bilek was disliked heavily in Czech. I would not wish Trapattoni on our worst enemies. In fact if he did go to England ( ), it would almost be as bad because we'd still be subjected to his "football" and we'd still be listening to people talking about him 24/7. That's obviously a moot point but be careful what you wish for Czechlad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Who even plays 4-4-2 anymore? Who put in that cross for Kozak's goal? Quality. Rosicky made a really great pass to Jiracek who delivered the cross. Jiracek is a really good midfielder but he has been injured for nearly a year. You guys looking for a new manager now as well. I hear Trapattoni is available We will likely go Czech but I honestly wouldn't mind Trapattoni. Anyone would be better than what we had. Bilek was disliked heavily in Czech. I would not wish Trapattoni on our worst enemies. In fact if he did go to England ( ), it would almost be as bad because we'd still be subjected to his "football" and we'd still be listening to people talking about him 24/7. That's obviously a moot point but be careful what you wish for Czechlad! Is he really that bad? I thought he was a decent manager but I didn't watch much Irish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 If you have the correct players, 4-4-2 is great. I think it was Wenger who said that it cannot be matched in terms of coverage of the pitch. City played it against Newcastle when they beat them 4-0 and looked outstanding. On paper yes but in reality there was so much interchange and free movement that it never really operated as a 4-4-2. Silva (as he does) spent lots of time drifting inside. Aguero had quite a free role also and Dzeko ran the channels quite often. Similar to Spain when they used to play Villa and Torres together. It was listed as a 4-4-2 but in reality it never operated as such. Rather it was a fluid and interchangeable system that cannot really be summarised by a few numbers. We haven't got the players with anywhere near the intelligence to play it like that. As for the Wenger comment, if he did actually say that then it is strange that he never makes any sort of effort to play 4-4-2 himself. Actions speak louder then words and all that... I know we can't play it like that, we don't have the personnel. I was just making an example of how it can still work in the modern game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I know we can't play it like that, we don't have the personnel. I was just making an example of how it can still work in the modern game. My point being that it wasn't really a 4-4-2. The basic shape of the team hardly ever resembled as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Really hoping that Libor is a success at Villa. I've a soft spot for Czech sportsmen (my all time sporting hero was a Czech speedway rider), I've particularly admired their football team's achievements over the years, so it would be nice to see a resurgence for them led by our new boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Really hoping that Libor is a success at Villa. I've a soft spot for Czech sportsmen (my all time sporting hero was a Czech speedway rider), I've particularly admired their football team's achievements over the years, so it would be nice to see a resurgence for them led by our new boy. As long as he's better than our last Czech striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Really hoping that Libor is a success at Villa. I've a soft spot for Czech sportsmen (my all time sporting hero was a Czech speedway rider), I've particularly admired their football team's achievements over the years, so it would be nice to see a resurgence for them led by our new boy. As long as he's better than our last Czech striker. True Or Ivo Stas, who I can't even find a picture of!! Edited September 11, 2013 by turnbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw95 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 What was wrong with Baros? Am I in the minority again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Baros was dreadful. He made his name by somehow ending Euro 2000 (or was it '04?) as top scorer. Then he signed for Liverpool, and after being a bit rubbish there, ended up with us where he was even more rubbish, plus basically pissed off at finding himself sliding down the football pecking order. For us he was mostly bored and lazy, which is to be expected whenever we pick up failures from bigger clubs unless they're Paul McGrath. Turned out well, though, MON somehow managed to swap him for John Carew. Luckily now we have a policy of signing young players who look like they might turn out to be good at football, rather than signing celebrities who might never be good at football ever again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The swap deal involving Baros and Carew was initiated by Houllier apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The swap deal involving Baros and Carew was initiated by Houllier apparently. Ah well, at least MON was sane enough to say "YES PLEASE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The swap deal involving Baros and Carew was initiated by Houllier apparently. Probably true seeing as Carew came from abroad. Best thing Houllier ever did for us if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The swap deal involving Baros and Carew was initiated by Houllier apparently. Probably true seeing as Carew came from abroad. Best thing Houllier ever did for us if so. The best thing Houllier ever did for us was sign Darren Bent, saved us in 10/11. In all honesty, was Carew even that good for us? He had a good first season or two, but went off the boil pretty quickly and looked lazy ever since the nightclub incident. I still love him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I'd love big JC back. A front trio of him, Benteke and Kozak would be ridiculous. The worlds strongest strike force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 What was wrong with Baros? Am I in the minority again? Milan wasnt too bad to be honest, and he STILL has a career, just didnt fit in at the end IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo82 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 My memories of Baros was he'd get the ball and run with head down not even caring in what direction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Baros actually wasn't that bad, he had some flashes in him. Scored a couple against the Blues and a winner against WBA with the shittest penalty I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Baros actually wasn't that bad, he had some flashes in him. Scored a couple against the Blues and a winner against WBA with the shittest penalty I have ever seen. Scored on his debut for us too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 also involved in a cracking goal with Angel in a 4-0 win vs Everton. think he scored twice that night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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