Talldarkandransome Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Zatman said: Won the league at Chelsea like Mourinho. Not sure how they are failed ex Chelsea managers But at Chelsea you are required to win 2 league titles in one season, they only managed one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Arsenal / Arteta have made things worse for Spurs. They'll keep sacking managers, moaning, groaning and under investing until they get really lucky with an Arteta like manager who can take them from 4-6th to title challengers. That's what Arsenal have done since the invincibles (including forcing Wenger out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Zatman said: Won the league at Chelsea like Mourinho. Not sure how they are failed ex Chelsea managers You misunderstood the point failed ex chelsea manager managing spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 27/03/2023 at 01:01, Demitri_C said: Another failed ex chelsea manager at spurs. Poch be back 100% in my opinion I doubt that very much. I don't know why people think this? Pochetino and Levy can't stand each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 27/03/2023 at 07:43, jimmygreaves said: Take Kane out of that side and they're a mid table club. This is the fear. I'm not sure what Spurs actually want, or what they consider success. They had a couple of great years under Pochettino when the usual suspects were all having 'transitional' seasons, Klopp's Liverpool weren't quite there yet, Manchester City still hadn't gone full Guardiola, Chelsea had one season where they finished mid table and Manchester United were in their full on meme years phase. There was a window for another club without ludicrous resources to make hay and Spurs were that club but the season where they thought they should have won the league they finished 3rd with 70 points. In years to come they'll look at this era as one of success, they had some of the best players in the club's history (Kane has done enough to have a statue built outside the stadium) and were constantly qualifying for Europe. They might have won a cup here and there so they won't be remembered like Keegan's Newcastle as one of the best teams who never won anything but it's weird how the team have been in the top four for a lot of the last decade and yet the fans are all miserable. Kane isn't going to be around forever, whether they lose him in the transfer window this summer or just to father time in 3 or 4 years, and it's going to be interesting to see whether it was him carrying the club on his back all along. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, GlobalVillan said: Pochetino and Levy can't stand each other. Source? From what I know they are very close and their families used to even go on holidays together https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/tottenham-mauricio-pochettino-daniel-levy-23667853 Edited March 28, 2023 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, villa89 said: Source? From what I know they are very close and their families even go on holidays together Never heard that either. Only thing i've heard is that Poch is desperate to get back to Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, The_Rev said: This is the fear. I'm not sure what Spurs actually want, or what they consider success. They had a couple of great years under Pochettino when the usual suspects were all having 'transitional' seasons, Klopp's Liverpool weren't quite there yet, Manchester City still hadn't gone full Guardiola, Chelsea had one season where they finished mid table and Manchester United were in their full on meme years phase. There was a window for another club without ludicrous resources to make hay and Spurs were that club but the season where they thought they should have won the league they finished 3rd with 70 points. In years to come they'll look at this era as one of success, they had some of the best players in the club's history (Kane has done enough to have a statue built outside the stadium) and were constantly qualifying for Europe. They might have won a cup here and there so they won't be remembered like Keegan's Newcastle as one of the best teams who never won anything but it's weird how the team have been in the top four for a lot of the last decade and yet the fans are all miserable. Kane isn't going to be around forever, whether they lose him in the transfer window this summer or just to father time in 3 or 4 years, and it's going to be interesting to see whether it was him carrying the club on his back all along. Though if they get £100m for Kane and a manager who spends it wisely, then £100m could really improve the team. Of course, they could just waste it like Villa did! Edited March 28, 2023 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, ender4 said: Though if they get £100m for Kane and a manager who spends it wisely, then £100m could really improve the team. Of course, they could just waste it like Villa did! I mean the last time they had a huge sale (Bale); they did waste the money spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, duke313 said: Never heard that either. Only thing i've heard is that Poch is desperate to get back to Spurs. I would be shocked if he went back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, GlobalVillan said: I doubt that very much. I don't know why people think this? Pochetino and Levy can't stand each other. Hmm i don't think levy wants poch otherwise he would appoint him now. I think they want nagelsmann. Have to be honest thats a huge gamble. He is a young boss that struggled to managed older egos at munich. Spurs is much worse he couls find managing those egos veey difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Hmm i don't think levy wants poch otherwise he would appoint him now. I think they want nagelsmann. Have to be honest thats a huge gamble. He is a young boss that struggled to managed older egos at munich. Spurs is much worse he couls find managing those egos veey difficult Mm that's really not true. Spurs players are crybabies not egotists Big difference between managing Manuel Neuer and Thomas Muller than managing Bissouma and Dier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Mm that's really not true. Spurs players are crybabies not egotists Big difference between managing Manuel Neuer and Thomas Muller than managing Bissouma and Dier Crybabies tend to have egos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 17 hours ago, The_Rev said: This is the fear. I'm not sure what Spurs actually want, or what they consider success. They had a couple of great years under Pochettino when the usual suspects were all having 'transitional' seasons, Klopp's Liverpool weren't quite there yet, Manchester City still hadn't gone full Guardiola, Chelsea had one season where they finished mid table and Manchester United were in their full on meme years phase. There was a window for another club without ludicrous resources to make hay and Spurs were that club but the season where they thought they should have won the league they finished 3rd with 70 points. In years to come they'll look at this era as one of success, they had some of the best players in the club's history (Kane has done enough to have a statue built outside the stadium) and were constantly qualifying for Europe. They might have won a cup here and there so they won't be remembered like Keegan's Newcastle as one of the best teams who never won anything but it's weird how the team have been in the top four for a lot of the last decade and yet the fans are all miserable. Kane isn't going to be around forever, whether they lose him in the transfer window this summer or just to father time in 3 or 4 years, and it's going to be interesting to see whether it was him carrying the club on his back all along. They actually haven't won a cup here and there under Poch. Their last trophy was in 2008, when Harry Kane was still 14. That team from 2015-18 should definitely be remembered in the same vein as Keegan's Newcastle. I still maintain that the 2016/17 team that finished 2nd (ironically to Conte's Chelsea) are the best team I've watched never win anything. The PL's best ever runners up. A fitting title for Spurs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I saw a good stat this morning. Jose and Conte have both won trophy’s at every single club they’ve managed for more than 50 games… apart from 1 club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Keyblade said: They actually haven't won a cup here and there under Poch. Their last trophy was in 2008, when Harry Kane was still 14. That team from 2015-18 should definitely be remembered in the same vein as Keegan's Newcastle. I still maintain that the 2016/17 team that finished 2nd (ironically to Conte's Chelsea) are the best team I've watched never win anything. The PL's best ever runners up. A fitting title for Spurs. Just to clarify I didn’t say they’d won anything, I implied they needed to or they’d just be another Keegan’s Newcastle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 20 hours ago, villa89 said: Source? From what I know they are very close and their families used to even go on holidays together https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/tottenham-mauricio-pochettino-daniel-levy-23667853 Lol. That's not a source, that's tabloid trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 hours ago, ender4 said: Though if they get £100m for Kane and a manager who spends it wisely, then £100m could really improve the team. Of course, they could just waste it like Villa did! They'd need 100m just to replace Kane with Son declining. They tried that method a decade ago when they sold Bale for a world record fee and it took them two years to do anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, VillaChris said: They'd need 100m just to replace Kane with Son declining. They tried that method a decade ago when they sold Bale for a world record fee and it took them two years to do anything. Lamela and Eriksen were the only ones to go on to do anything of note for them of the players bought with the Bale money. There were some right stinkers in there like Vlad Chiriches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, Keyblade said: Lamela and Eriksen were the only ones to go on to do anything of note for them of the players bought with the Bale money. There were some right stinkers in there like Vlad Chiriches. Soldado, Paulinho and Etienne Capoue were others signed that summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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