djamfisher Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Agreed Dem, for a CB who is that young, and has proved he can play in the PL, i think this is slightly under value. Good signing all round from Cardiff, I reckon a lot of managers would've wanted him, but didn't think it would be possible. Edited August 1, 2013 by djamfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Phil Jones - approx. £16.5 million Chris Smalling - approx £12 million (with add ons) Caulker - approx £8 million I think Cardiff have got a fair price and I think they've got a better deal than Tottenham here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2013 As a friend of mine said. Good business all-round. Spurs get rid of a defender not quite good enough for them and Cardiff get a player too good for them. I think he could've done a job for Spurs this season but he was seemingly told he was not starting 11 so he asked to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2013 If I had asked people what they valued Caulker at a week ago people would not have said £8-9m not bloody way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2013 He's a 21 year old full England international and I'd have him starting for Spurs instead of Dawson. So I would have had him in that price bracket. I don't put it down to Levy I do think it's the top of his value though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 He's a 21 year old full England international and I'd have him starting for Spurs instead of Dawson. So I would have had him in that price bracket. I don't put it down to Levy I do think it's the top of his value though. Which is exactly why we have moved away from the English market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) I agree LondonLax, I largely agree with the views of Tartaruga. I'm sure Benteke or his agent were tapped up but then I'm sure we do plenty of it ourselves. That is football. I also agree regarding Levy, although he has made mistakes and I think he made a big one not landing Benteke in favour of Solado or whatever his name is. We shall see. I don't actually dislike Spurs as a club, I think they are a decent club who generally conduct themselves well. There are certainly some clubs out there I find far more objectionable such as Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool to name just 3. I do though find quite a lot of Spurs fans to be quite irritating though and with ideas a little above their station, some of the views expressed by them during the pursuit of Benteke really were more than a little patronising and arrogant. There is therefore an element of karma involved but less so in terms of the club itself. I should add I don't include TartarugaJones in the above by the way. I had a debate along these lines with a friend of mine the other day, the fans ARE the club. Owners, managers, players, the tea lady, these people come and go. The fans are always there, from birth till death and beyond through their spawn. Which makes Tottenham Horspur arrogant, condescending, patronising twazzocks. Always have been, always will be. It is what it is. Edited August 1, 2013 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Chico 2M and Caulker 8M, there is something wrong with the English market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Chico 2M and Caulker 8M, there is something wrong with the English market. A lot of managers are willing to pay a premium to get a player with Premier League experience. Other managers are more willing to take a risk from abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 A lot of managers are willing to pay a premium to get a player with Premier League experience in fairness these lazy managers are starting to die out. at the moment its only really the newly promoted teams who are buying these expensive home grown players this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Chico 2M and Caulker 8M, there is something wrong with the English market. A lot of managers are willing to pay a premium to get a player with Premier League experience. Other managers are more willing to take a risk from abroad. A lot of managers are awful at their job then. If a manager cant spot that Chico has the talent to play in the Premier League and could be bought at a cheaper price then he has the wrong job. Many here overrate PL-experience IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2013 I agree LondonLax, I largely agree with the views of Tartaruga. I'm sure Benteke or his agent were tapped up but then I'm sure we do plenty of it ourselves. That is football. I also agree regarding Levy, although he has made mistakes and I think he made a big one not landing Benteke in favour of Solado or whatever his name is. We shall see. I don't actually dislike Spurs as a club, I think they are a decent club who generally conduct themselves well. There are certainly some clubs out there I find far more objectionable such as Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool to name just 3. I do though find quite a lot of Spurs fans to be quite irritating though and with ideas a little above their station, some of the views expressed by them during the pursuit of Benteke really were more than a little patronising and arrogant. There is therefore an element of karma involved but less so in terms of the club itself. I should add I don't include TartarugaJones in the above by the way. I had a debate along these lines with a friend of mine the other day, the fans ARE the club. Owners, managers, players, the tea lady, these people come and go. The fans are always there, from birth till death and beyond through their spawn. Which makes Tottenham Horspur arrogant, condescending, patronising twazzocks. Always have been, always will be. It is what it is. No offence intended but I think that is nonsense to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Kaboul, Verthongen , Paulinho, Dembele, Sandro, Lennon, Soldado, Chadli. Top 4 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 A top 4 side with Kaboul in it? Can't see it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradarmstrong_ Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 They weren't a top 4 team with Bale. No chance they will be without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 They're going to get absolutely ripped off with their Bale replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 A top 4 side with Kaboul in it? Can't see it myself Kaboul is actually a decent defender, just to injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) A top 4 side with Kaboul in it? Can't see it myself They got top 4 with him at the back.. Also Huddlestone in midfield... Edited August 1, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2013 Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Kaboul, Verthongen , Paulinho, Dembele, Sandro, Lennon, Soldado, Chadli. Top 4 team. Dawson and Kaboul as your CBs is equivalent to Zat Knight and Carlos Cuellar. Average at best. Dawson is right up there with Steven Taylor as massively overrated defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 A lot of managers are willing to pay a premium to get a player with Premier League experience in fairness these lazy managers are starting to die out. at the moment its only really the newly promoted teams who are buying these expensive home grown players this summer You can at least see the thinking from a promoted clubs point of view. They have very few players who have event visited most of the premier league stadiums let alone experience of playing against the different sides. They will want to get a sprinkling of PL experience into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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