bickster Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I'm only teasing you So was I 4 minutes ago, bickster said: rather post-marxist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: Yea, the example I used was for a 12 peice cutlery set, it would take a family of four a day an a half to fill. Slow buggers, I could load that by myself in under a minute. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, bickster said: Sorry this dishwasher debate is nonsense. The dishwasher vs handwashing figures are always using a full Dishwasher. To fill our dishwasher would sometimes take 3 days Also the energy thing. If a dishwasher is cold fill it is using electricity to heat the water which is far more expensive than using gas through a combi-boiler on demand Supposedly dishwashers are capped at using 5 gallons of water which is about 23 litres of water but most older models are capped at 10 gallons (ours is definitely older). There's no way I use 45 litres of water doing the washing up. I reckon our sink uses about 5 litres when doing the washing up plus probably the same again for rinsing. No according to Which https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/which-research-reveals-how-little-water-dishwashers-use-compared-to-hand-washing/ "Our tests show even the least water-efficient dishwasher still only uses half the amount of water compared to hand-washing Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/which-research-reveals-how-little-water-dishwashers-use-compared-to-hand-washing/ - Which?" Edited December 18, 2020 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, bickster said: I bought one of them once. Used 2 months worth of Fairy Liquid in a week Fairy Liquid? You must be made of money (and have hands made of titanium) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: No according to Which https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/which-research-reveals-how-little-water-dishwashers-use-compared-to-hand-washing/ "Our tests show even the least water-efficient dishwasher still only uses half the amount of water compared to hand-washing Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/09/which-research-reveals-how-little-water-dishwashers-use-compared-to-hand-washing/ - Which?" Not even joking here but things need to be pre-rinsed or almost washed before they ever get near a dish washer. I'm guessing that amount of necessary water is not factored into the water required to wash a full load. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, BOF said: Not even joking here but things need to be pre-rinsed or almost washed before they ever get near a dish washer. I'm guessing that amount of necessary water is not factored into the water required to wash a full load. You don't need to rinse anything before it goes in the dishwasher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) Please change the subject. Edited December 18, 2020 by Rds1983 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Kind of seems like the problem is not *dishwashers*, but *your dishwasher* to be honest. You would want a smaller and newer model. Which uses how much energy to manufacture, transport, store, package, sell and collect/deliver? Washing by hand, half fill the sink with warm water, wash the cleanest stuff first, and the dirtiest last. Move them to the draining board, then rinse off under the cold tap if there's suds on them - fills less than a bowl in total. A squirt of washing up liquid from a refillable bottle, v tablets wrapped in individual plastic, inside yet more packaging... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, bickster said: Fairy Liquid Ah, another one for the thread. Why have we (Sweden and Norway) decided to import this rather brilliant product and change the name, to another English name????? 27 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Please change the subject. Tried, failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 No need to wash stuff up or use a dishwasher... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: No need to wash stuff up or use a dishwasher... Greta's gonna get ya! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 At uni a friend lived with a German student who in the final term decided they couldn't be bothered with the washing up so bought a bunch of paper plates and disposable cutlery and lived off those for about 3 months. On the other hand I lived with a guy in my third year who took a similar approach, except he just stopped washing up. I remember washing up accompanied by a bowl of pasta that had gone blue (literally - it was fusilli that was now so mouldy it was blue) that he had just left by the sink like it was someone else's problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tegis said: Ah, another one for the thread. Why have we (Sweden and Norway) decided to import this rather brilliant product and change the name, to another English name????? Tried, failed Well if you ask Proctor and Gamble's Swedish Customer Help, they will tell you that the products aren't the same. They have different ingredients and Yes is more concentrated than Fairy It is safe to conclude, therefore, that you Scandi's are just dirty bastards than need more cleaning power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: Please change the subject. Don't worry, it will all come out in the wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, blandy said: Which uses how much energy to manufacture, transport, store, package, sell and collect/deliver? Washing by hand, half fill the sink with warm water, wash the cleanest stuff first, and the dirtiest last. Move them to the draining board, then rinse off under the cold tap if there's suds on them - fills less than a bowl in total. A squirt of washing up liquid from a refillable bottle, v tablets wrapped in individual plastic, inside yet more packaging... Blandy, with all that gravy and bits of fish there is no way a half full sink is going to adequately sort out your plates and cutlery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, sidcow said: Blandy, with all that gravy and bits of fish there is no way a half full sink is going to adequately sort out your plates and cutlery. No need, Sid. Lick t'plate clean till it glistens. Can't let a drop of gravy go to waste. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 Plate Licker!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: Plate Licker!!!!! 's up wi' that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Chindie said: On the other hand I lived with a guy in my third year who took a similar approach, except he just stopped washing up. I remember washing up accompanied by a bowl of pasta that had gone blue (literally - it was fusilli that was now so mouldy it was blue) that he had just left by the sink like it was someone else's problem. You could say... it was bluesilli 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Don't worry, it will all come out in the wash. What even at 30 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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