Djemba_Villan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Good luck to them proving legally-binding links between owners and the Saudi owners for each deal. This clearly won’t work. Must have been awkward for City though - funny that they abstained. Guess we can rule out a £300m sponsorship from Adidas then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: The only club to abstain of course was City 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Djemba_Villan said: Must have been awkward for City though - funny that they abstained. Leicester voted for it despiute haviung their parent company as their shirt and stadium sponsor It might happen to be in the interests of the game, but this is naked self-interest, and the PL clubs essentially voting to keep Man City and Chelsea at the top, better the devil you know. There's no sporting integreity or level playing field in this game anymore, they just don't want Newcastle getting a bigger peice of the pie. Much the same as the ridiculously named "FFP", even the clubs that didn't benefit directly from a sugar daddy themselves are happy to vote to pull the ladder up to cement their current place and not be overtaken by another club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Wonder how much the future ‘Saudi Tourist Board’ or Saudia Airlines will pay for their 5 year ‘strategic’ deal that will encompass stadium development and everything. Just cannot see in this day and age it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 The big 6 really seem worried about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: The big 6 really seem worried about them. everyone seems really worried about them... and they should be, if the saudi's come in and sponsor the stadium for £100m a year, what do city do, what do leicester do, what do we do? this FFP chasing revenue stuff where clubs have official bath towel partners can get in the **** bin, its a load of nonsense, this will just make it all worse, the saudis are going to pump money in, man utd are going to get bigger, the glaziers are going to get richer, 18 clubs will just be turning up every week for shits and giggles the problem is that its all too late, this kind of noise should have been made a long long time ago but the PL has also got very rich off all this money 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: everyone seems really worried about them... and they should be, if the saudi's come in and sponsor the stadium for £100m a year, what do city do, what do leicester do, what do we do? this FFP chasing revenue stuff where clubs have official bath towel partners can get in the **** bin, its a load of nonsense, this will just make it all worse, the saudis are going to pump money in, man utd are going to get bigger, the glaziers are going to get richer, 18 clubs will just be turning up every week for shits and giggles the problem is that its all too late, this kind of noise should have been made a long long time ago but the PL has also got very rich off all this money Sadly this is just the way football has been heading for the last 20 years. Been slowly dying. Chelsea, Man City and PSG accelerated it's death. Only reason we are where we are is because of sugar daddy's pumping money into our club. Let's not be hypocrites. Edited October 19, 2021 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Going all the way back to the PL's inception, Blackburn bought the league, but it was kind of ok, it was local man, done good, investing in his local club. Then Man United bought the league regularly, but it was kind of under their own marketing power, and they weren't so far ahead that Arsenal couldn't occasionally pip them to it, so it wasn't that bad. Then Chelsea bought the league and we realised it was a bad thing, but hey, Man United are still competing as long as they have the greatest manager of his generation in charge, and Chelsea were doing ok before then and playing in Europe, so them stepping up a little bit didn't seem that outrageous. Then City started buying it and that seemed much much worse, because who the **** are City, and suddenly they're disrupting the footballing world order, and we need to do something about this. but it's a bit late nnow, and anyway, they're not winning everything all the time, so they're just one of the ESL gang now. But now another club might buy it, and they risk being rich enough that the others can't occasionally swoop in for their turn to buy it, it's a very serious problem indeed. The frog has been boiling for decades. Edited October 19, 2021 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, villalad21 said: The big 6 really seem worried about them. They've been asleep at the wheel and realised that letting states with unlimited funds finance their sportswashing is bad for competition. So, they are slowly trying to find ways to limit the damage until the next Super League announcement takes place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Only reason we are where we are is because of sugar daddy's pumping money into our club. Let's not be hypocrites. i actually prefer that scrap FFP, scrap the need for etoro and monster and whoever else we've got as a partner let the owners have a pissing contest with their grotesque riches, its fairer than man utd spending more than us because team viewer pays them more than cazoo pay us there is and will always be the chance that another billionaire will want to buy us and throw money at us, there is no **** chance at all that our revenue will overtake utds, its impossible, but utds billionaire doesnt want to throw money at them so ours isnt allowed to either, its bullshit i think we could be more competitive with no FFP, i think our owners will have more of a stomach for that pissing contest than utd and liverpools, definitely more than arsenal and spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Sadly this is just the way football has been heading for the last 20 years. Been slowly dying. Chelsea, Man City and PSG accelerated it's death. Only reason we are where we are is because of sugar daddy's pumping money into our club. Let's not be hypocrites. The club was almost liquidated because the EFL allowed a clown to run this club into the ground. The conditions are not materially comparable. Is Ashley not a sugar daddy also? This is far beyond the wealth of individuals but into actual nations. It’s immoral and you know it. False comparisons help nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The_Steve said: The club was almost liquidated because the EFL allowed a clown to run this club into the ground. The conditions are not materially comparable. Is Ashley not a sugar daddy also? This is far beyond the wealth of individuals but into actual nations. It’s immoral and you know it. False comparisons help nothing. None of it is fair. Do you think the likes of Burnley and Norwich think it's fair the way we have been handed free money and leaped past them? This is the same thing on a much bigger scale. I much prefer the German model. They do things the right way. Yes the Bundesliga isn't as good as Premier League but I think I could accept that for a fairer competition. Edited October 19, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, The_Steve said: The club was almost liquidated because the EFL allowed a clown to run this club into the ground. The conditions are not materially comparable. Is Ashley not a sugar daddy also? This is far beyond the wealth of individuals but into actual nations. It’s immoral and you know it. False comparisons help nothing. that's why i think no FFP is actually fairer its a billionaire owner vs a billionaire owner and the winner will be which one is more willing to spend his money on their club that's fairer than the value of a clubs partnership deals vs the value of a clubs partnership deals, the bigger clubs will always be bigger if the saudis want to spend money and the glaziers dont then so be it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I can’t help but feel this is going Pete tong. (And hope) Stavely is a smalL minority owner who doesn’t say anything of substance, but is happy to say something. Abramovich is an example of quiet but effective. As are Mansour et al. She is surely just a face and if she is actually running the club then I think it’s doomed to fail. She doesn’t seem to have any experience running a big company just fronting bids of investors. The Reuben brothers are 80 years old. Please please go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, villalad21 said: None of it is fair. Do you think the likes of Burnley and Norwich think it's fair the way we have been handed free money and leaped past them? This is the same thing on a much bigger scale. I much prefer the German model. They do things the right way. Yes the Bundesliga isn't as good as Premier League but I think I could accept that for a fairer competition. The Bundesliga isn't a fairer model, really. It's basically FFP but a panel decides whether or not a team can get a licence for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 For a rampantly capitalist country, the US seems to get things along the right lines with their socialist sports leagues - though that's just from a glance I've never taken too much interest. The lack of relegation/promotion is a nonsense, but the funding model seems a bit more in line with sporting integrity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, bobzy said: The Bundesliga isn't a fairer model, really. It's basically FFP but a panel decides whether or not a team can get a licence for the season. The bundesliga model is fair if you're bayern Munich! They're owned by Audi, Allianz and Adidas, you can imagine how eye watering their sponsorship deals with those 3 are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: For a rampantly capitalist country, the US seems to get things along the right lines with their socialist sports leagues - though that's just from a glance I've never taken too much interest. The lack of relegation/promotion is a nonsense, but the funding model seems a bit more in line with sporting integrity? Yes, broadly. But it means it will be left behind pretty continually, until they start shifting things financially (which I imagine has already started). The Premier League/most of Europe is way too entrenched to switch things up that widely now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 This move by the PL clubs is hilarious and looks really quite amateur. How can they expect this to stand up, when it has been allowed for Man City, Leicester and I'm sure a whole host of other clubs already. Total panic stations reaction. Too little, too late, gotta accept your fate PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Said long before Newcastle takeover PL and actually all big football leagues need to adopt salary cap system like they have in NRL and other sports. Would put a cap on ridiculous wages some clubs pay players for one. Unfortunately that horse has long bolted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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