Isa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Listen, this lad was always going to take time. It was clear from his initial training performances the speed of the game was much faster than he was used to but that was to be expected coming from where he did. When Petrov left Bulgaria he was miles off it for his first year in Glasgow - did not so bad after that! Some players take longer than others to adapt. He will get better and better. Lowton was pants in his first five months at the club and so was Westwood. Agree???? Tonev starting tonight and whether he performs well or not it will be another step in the right direction for him. Judge him come the end of the season not now! No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Lowton was pants in his first five months at the club and so was Westwood. Agree???? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 they werent pants but im sure if look through the thread from Westwood 1st game some of the comments are a bit of a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Needs to stop shooting so much, did though look very exciting with some of his runs in the first half against Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Westwood was slaughtered after playing the 2nd half at Southampton when the entire team capitulated. His performances when he got his first run in the team were his best in a Villa shirt though in my opinion. Especially Sunderland, Man Utd and Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Westwood began with two sub-appearances against Swansea and Southampton before not featuring again until his first start at Sunderland. So are you saying he 'wasn't great to begin with' on the basis of two sub appearances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 look at the Westwood thread from the Southampton game Isa. was as bad as Tonev abuse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Posted this in the match thread Tonev has hardly played for us. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that he takes a couple of months to settle and that his performances improve from around December onwards! I'd also imagine that if Stan were around that may help him setlle Cant believe the stick Tonev gets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 look at the Westwood thread from the Southampton game Isa. was as bad as Tonev abuse Did I not say he was slaughtered after the Southampton game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) I think the point people are making is that Westwood whilst possibly naive and ineffective was not a catastrophe like Tonev was on Saturday. In reality he'll probably never play that badly again so we can afford him an opportunity to have another crack. You can't judge a player on one game so people should calm down and trust the manager and his staff know what Tonev is all about. Still would have preferred to see Grealish getting the chance Tonev is getting but that is another story. Edited September 24, 2013 by AndyClarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Also, I wasn't relating my argument to Tonev. Writing any player off after one start is silly. I just disagreed with HH's initial statement as I don't think either Lowton or Westwood were bad during there initial runs in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Let it go for now at least, some of the things said here is just unnecessary whining and hatred. In that regard you come across as bad as a pool supporter, do you want to be that? Tension can be high in a match but he is still new here. We don`t know how it will go, so far we can agree that the signs are not good, but he needs and deserves more time. If you get on the back on him in matches there is a bigger chance he will fail, or leave if he starts to perform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 If he's good enough for Stan Petrov and Paul Lambert he's good enough for me. Bennett and Bowery were good enough for Lambert, but they will never, ever be good enough for the Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsworthlion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Still would have preferred to see Grealish getting the chance Tonev is getting but that is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He is no der hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Saturday was just embarrasing, truly one of the worst performances I have ever seen. BUT presumably the reason he took so many shots is because he does have decent shooting ability and usually hits the target (or close). If he hits the target with even half of his efforts on Saturday and forces the keeper into a save then his performance suddenly takes on a different complextion. Even still, he needs to grow up and learn when to pass, and he needs to stop going purely for power at the expense of accuracy. He may turn out OKish but he has a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 first shot of the evening from Tonev, after two minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Can we start a new Der hammer style chant for him except let's make it "Don't Shoot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Played better tonight, had a good shot saved by Friedel and passed the ball less nervously... Showed sparkles of what he can do! I'm not saying he was amazing or terrible... But he has potential! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 He came into the game late on but didn't do much before that, but there are some positive signs there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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