The_Rev Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) I've never been a fan of the concept of retiring shirt numbers, mostly it seems misguided (like the talk of retiring the #7 shirt at Manchester United when George Best died despite the fact that he wore #11 for the vast majority of his career there) but I think that perhaps when a player dies in service like Marc Vivien Foe at Manchester City or has something as tragic as what happened to Stan then there might be a case for it. Thoughts? **edit** After doing a bit of research on the similar situation which happened at Bolton with Fabrice Muamba last year it seems they haven't officially retired the number 6 shirt. They don't have a number 6 in the squad at the moment, but somebody might get that number again one day. It's a little bit different I guess because players have been wearing the #6 shirt at Bolton for as long as football shirts have had numbers on the back of them whereas the the #19 has almost become synonymous with Stan because of the 19th minute tributes to him and the much shorter history of the number 19 shirt. I'm still not sure myself. Edited May 9, 2013 by The_Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No. Life goes on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1Avfc Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 9, 2013 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yes. Would be a lovely gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avflife Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No. Decent bloke, decent player. The 19th minutes will live long in my memory, as will the number of times fellow supporters were giving him stick when he was playing for us. Playingwise he was always one who divided opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caw2510 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 definatley borrowinf the chelsea phrase he is captain leader legend #19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) No. If his battle hadn't been a success then yes, but he survived and so should his shirt. Edited May 9, 2013 by NurembergVillan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yes, at least for a certain number of years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 If his number was 1-11 I'd be saying no, but as it's 19, and with the 19th minute applause becoming a part of the club recently, I think it would be a nice gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 If his number was 1-11 I'd be saying no, but as it's 19, and with the 19th minute applause becoming a part of the club recently, I think it would be a nice gesture. I don't get this. Are you saying the number matters more than the significance? Anyway I say no 19 next year, but I wouldn't retire it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No. I can see why its done in US sports where thay have 0 - 99 numbers and a player can become synonymous with one number but for fottball its beyond retarded. The examples you listed show how stupid it is to be honest and West Ham retiring the number six for Booby Moore is moronic and shows how small time they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 9, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2013 yes nice touch i reckon, will mean he is remembered in some lasting way i spose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No its a bit of a american thing isnt it? Whoever wears it again needs to be a throughly good egg like stan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 If his number was 1-11 I'd be saying no, but as it's 19, and with the 19th minute applause becoming a part of the club recently, I think it would be a nice gesture. I don't get this. Are you saying the number matters more than the significance? Anyway I say no 19 next year, but I wouldn't retire it, In a way it does. Some numbers (typically 1-11) have been worn by lots of great players since shirt numbers were introduced in 1928. Other numbers have less of a history because squad numbers are a more recent phenomenon. Since the introduction of squad numbers, the Aston Villa number 19 shirt has been issued to: No player (2 seasons) Stefan Beinlich (1 season) Graham Fenton (1 season) Gareth Farrelly (2 seasons) David Hughes (1 season) Richard Walker (1 season) Bosko Balaban (2 seasons) Liam Ridgewell (3 seasons) Stan Petrov (6 seasons) You could make a strong argument that Stan has made the number 19 shirt his own. The 19th minute tributes only add weight to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongotastic Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 He's still alive and I sincerely hope his health improves and he recovers from this horrible illness. I don't think you can retire numbers on that basis. Reading the dignity and humility of the statement I doubt he would want it retired! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 No. Petrov was a good servant - but we won nothing in his time here. There are players who have done more and we haven't retired those shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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