jacketspuds Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Having Gardner in the squad next season will be like a new signing if he can stay fit and start to get games. We really need a CB and LB as priorities then replace whoever leaves... OUT - Given, Dunne, Petrov (retired), Hutton, Makoun, Ireland, Bent IN - GK, CB, LB, CM, RW, ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Calm down. Lowton and Westwood have a lot of first team experience in lower leagues. Our academy players have been thrown straight in at the deep end. That's a big difference. Really? Clark and Bannan have something like 120 first team games between them. Hardly being thrown in. How many starts? As for Clark in particular, he's only just moved to CB. AFAIK his performances in midfield were rated good by most fans. Edited May 19, 2013 by Con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Calm down. Lowton and Westwood have a lot of first team experience in lower leagues. Our academy players have been thrown straight in at the deep end. That's a big difference. Really? Clark and Bannan have something like 120 first team games between them. Hardly being thrown in. exactly.. i knew somebody would come out with that though, we will do anything to defend our youngsters sometimes i'd say its Lowton and Westwood that were thrown in the deep end to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Calm down. Lowton and Westwood have a lot of first team experience in lower leagues. Our academy players have been thrown straight in at the deep end. That's a big difference. Really? Clark and Bannan have something like 120 first team games between them. Hardly being thrown in. How many starts? As for Clark in particular, he's only just moved to CB. AFAIK his performances in midfield were rated good by most fans. That statement is made up though isnt it to try and defend a poor season from one of our academy players. Clark is a CB, has always been a CB, and will probably always be a CB hopefully for a lesser team than ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Not sentimental about academy graduates. Don't want to waste great talent before they've had enough first team experience. Clark has only had 30 games at CB. Most of Bannan's 60 odd appearances were from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Calm down. Lowton and Westwood have a lot of first team experience in lower leagues. Our academy players have been thrown straight in at the deep end. That's a big difference. Really? Clark and Bannan have something like 120 first team games between them. Hardly being thrown in. How many starts? As for Clark in particular, he's only just moved to CB. AFAIK his performances in midfield were rated good by most fans. Clark started something like 28 league games last season. Bannan had 10 last and 18 this season. Surely that's more than enough to judge someone, especially as it's over multiple seasons. If they had say 10 games or so and they didn't perform, maybe you could say people are being harsh and calling them shit. Edited May 19, 2013 by Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Fair enough. I would hate to aswell. But we have the likes of Weimann to compare them to and his contribution is lightyears ahead of theirs. However I'd probably disagree with most people about the ability of our academy graduates because I've always thought Cahill is an average defender whereas most Villa fans would happily lynch MON for selling him, however thats another debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I don't think 30 starts is a lot of experience. As for Clark, we stayed up, in difficult circumstances. There are mitigating circumstances for his record this season, in the team we had under the new manager. He's getting a new contract anyway so this debate gladly is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agatson Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Like the fact he's English, although I think Vydra would better fit our counter-attack style. I’ll be surprised if Vydra makes any permanent move this summer. Udinese will be keen to hold onto him given that Di Natalie is likely to retire this summer or next. If Watford do go up then there’s a chance that the owners may let him stay there for another season but I think it’s more likely that he’ll be back in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 there hasnt been much talk of who people would like to see in this thread like past transfer threads GK out: Given and Marshall in: either Boaz Myhill or Wayne Hennessey (as cup and second choice) CB out: Dunne in: Abdoulaye Ba (or Robert Huth) CM out: Makoun, Ireland & Bannan in: Adel Taarabt CF out: Bent & Delfouneso in: no idea! (id like Bas Dost but i know it would never happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Taarabt? No way in hell. Taarabt should be spelled as Trouble, and he's highlight-player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Agreed, I wouldn't touch Taraabt with someone else's bargepole. I suggested the ex-Barca duo of Rochina and Romeu earlier in the season, though I've not heard much about their progress. Either way it's difficult to speculate when you know you won't have heard of most of the signings anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Not sentimental about academy graduates. Don't want to waste great talent before they've had enough first team experience. Clark has only had 30 games at CB. Most of Bannan's 60 odd appearances were from the bench. Most? 35 starts and 28 from the bench over the past three seasons, premier league only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Having Gardner in the squad next season will be like a new signing if he can stay fit and start to get games. Haven't seen anything from him to suggest he should be in the team ahead of Delph, Westwood or Sylla tbh. I'll be surprised if that's not our starting midfield trio for the next 3-4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) there hasnt been much talk of who people would like to see in this thread like past transfer threads IN - GK, CB, LB, CM, RW, ST Using that list I think a very successful window would consist of: Smithies, Dragovic, Cresswell, Hunt, Lestienne, Finnbogason Guzan Lowton Vlaar Dragovic Cresswell Westwood Delph Lestienne Hunt Agbonlahor Benteke Bench: Smithies, Bennett, Clark/Baker, Sylla, Gardner, Weimann, Finnbogason would be lovely. With Finnbogason ready to take the reigns for when Benteke inevitably leaves. More realistic may be: Smithies, Dunk/Chester, Cavanda, Murphy, Gale, Deeney/Clayton. Edited May 19, 2013 by HalfTimePost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Quality CB please We defend like clowns sometimes I can't remember the last time we kept a clean sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Quality CB please We defend like clowns sometimes I can't remember the last time we kept a clean sheet 27 games in all comps without a clean sheet, sunderland away I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) How we have managed to not get relegated with that record is anyone's guess It would be nice to take the load off our attacking players and not have to win every game 3 - 2 or 2 - 1 for a change Edited May 19, 2013 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 How we have managed to not get relegated with that record is anyone's guess It would be nice to take the load off our attacking players and not have to win every game 3 - 2 or 2 - 1 for a change It's something that's blighted us for 3 seasons now, even under the ultra defensive mcleish we rarely kept clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 there hasnt been much talk of who people would like to see in this thread like past transfer threads GK out: Given and Marshall in: either Boaz Myhill or Wayne Hennessey (as cup and second choice) CB out: Dunne in: Abdoulaye Ba (or Robert Huth) CM out: Makoun, Ireland & Bannan in: Adel Taarabt CF out: Bent & Delfouneso in: no idea! (id like Bas Dost but i know it would never happen) We'll be going backwards if do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts