Morpheus Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm one of the biggest supporters of PL and I think the style will come good. I just thought they were some interesting stats and sort of indicative of the cynicism PL adopted in order to avoid the lopsided score lines of last year Maybe Moyes should take a look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 i think he got it right last week whether that was due to fluke because of injuries or not is up for debate, still like him and want him here just think he blows the extreme of hot and cold with tactics, squad selection i normally think is pretty sound though. In all honesty i think the turning point for him will be what happens on saturday, Hull have done alright this year, they are nearly 1/3 towards their target with 5/6 of the season to go. These are the games we need to be winning, it is brilliant and a buzz winning the big games in unlikely circumstances, but its even better if they are bonus points, not make-up-for-games-we-should-have-won points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 didnt AVB call us a long ball team No, mourinho did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I thought they both did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I must of missed the avb one. Funny if true. I'm off to wind up my spurs mates with that stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 AVB called us a 'direct' team, which amounts to the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 A bit simplistic in my view, teams that play expansive football sometimes resort to these comments when they are struggling or unable to get control of a game....if in the case of our recent game with spurs, was what prompted AVB to base hs remarks, that villa team is not necessarily representative of how we always play. Villa sometimes do play long ball and sometimes they don't..we like any other team play to our strengths and sometimes have to change style when it's not working. Some opposing managers want to reserve their comments for their own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 didnt AVB call us a long ball team No, mourinho did. Was this after the same game where Mourinho's Chelsea played more long balls than us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Several people, including at least one journalist and Schmeichal on MOTD2 pointing out that Bacuna ran straight to Lambert after his goal. Lambert really does have their hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) here's the video a previous poster was talking about (sorry if its been posted before) You can see with the pool scene - he hates losing! Edited October 1, 2013 by KjParton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I think this latest lot of "stats" should tell everyone all they need to know. Its either a "short pass" or a "long ball", not a "short ball" or a "long pass". The long ball emerged if my memory serves me right from none other than GT when he was at Watford, after he did a survey on how goals had been scored. Other managers went on to argue that it was "the early ball" as opposed to the "long ball" & lets face facts-Who wouldn't want to see an early ball if it caught the opposing defence off guard? These days we have saddos perched in the stands counting every kind of pass throughout a game. You will probably see an inch perfect 40 yard crossfield pass listed in the stats as a "long ball" The fact that both Spurs & Man U are listed down as playing more so called long balls than us sums up the worth of these ridiculous figures. & surely if you are near the bottom of the so-called "short pass" table then it stands to reason that you will be near the top of the dreaded "long pass" table. My own stats tell me that I've really enjoyed 4 of our games so far & have not enjoyed the other 2 so much. I think we're in for a season of this but for the first time in 3 years, I don't think we will be under pressure. This in itself will be a culture shock-Imagine loosing a game & not worrying about the league table all week until we play again? What a luxuary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 didnt AVB call us a long ball team No, mourinho did. Was this after the same game where Mourinho's Chelsea played more long balls than us? Yes that's the one. What is actually classed as a long ball? As ones that's played 40 yards onto a players chest to me is not a long ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 didnt AVB call us a long ball team No, mourinho did. Was this after the same game where Mourinho's Chelsea played more long balls than us? Because they had twice as much of the ball and therefore played more passes total? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I actually think that our next set of games around about 6-7 are going to be very tough. I think Hull, spurs, Everton, cardiff or west brom can beat any team at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I actually think that our next set of games around about 6-7 are going to be very tough. I think Hull, spurs, Everton, cardiff or west brom can beat any team at the moment. Possibly. Then again, so can we. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 2, 2013 What is actually classed as a long ball? As ones that's played 40 yards onto a players chest to me is not a long ball. I think you are correct with the definition. However, most people read "long ball" as "hoof football" - where the only aim is to lump it forward into space at every opportunity and hope that your forwards can pick up the scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) I actually think that our next set of games around about 6-7 are going to be very tough. I think Hull, spurs, Everton, cardiff or west brom can beat any team at the moment. I think we're capable of 9 points from those games TBH. Should definitely be looking at beating Hull, Cardiff and West Brom. Wouldn't expect anything from the Spurs or Everton games, but you never know - we've shown we're capable of beating anyone and losing to anyone *EDIT* Just looking at our next 7 games, I think we should be aiming for 15 points from them. Hull (A), Spurs (H), Everton (H), West Ham (A), Cardiff (H), WBA (A), Sunderland (H) 12-15 points there would set us up quite nicely for a very reasonable December period, having us on 21-24 points ahead of Southampton (A), Fulham (A), Man U (H), Stoke (A), Palace (H) and Swansea (H), which (if we carried over reasonable form from the previous 7) could well yield another 10-12 points, which would have us pretty much safe by January and able to look up instead of down. March is the only really horrible month we've got left this season Edited October 2, 2013 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I actually think that our next set of games around about 6-7 are going to be very tough. I think Hull, spurs, Everton, cardiff or west brom can beat any team at the moment. I think we're capable of 9 points from those games TBH. Should definitely be looking at beating Hull, Cardiff and West Brom. Wouldn't expect anything from the Spurs or Everton games, but you never know - we've shown we're capable of beating anyone and losing to anyone *EDIT* Just looking at our next 7 games, I think we should be aiming for 15 points from them. Hull (A), Spurs (H), Everton (H), West Ham (A), Cardiff (H), WBA (A), Sunderland (H) 12-15 points there would set us up quite nicely for a very reasonable December period, having us on 21-24 points ahead of Southampton (A), Fulham (A), Man U (H), Stoke (A), Palace (H) and Swansea (H), which (if we carried over reasonable form from the previous 7) could well yield another 10-12 points, which would have us pretty much safe by January and able to look up instead of down. March is the only really horrible month we've got left this season Whilst that would be nice, we can be so damn Jekyll and Hyde, we can never be sure which Villa turns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) I actually think that our next set of games around about 6-7 are going to be very tough. I think Hull, spurs, Everton, cardiff or west brom can beat any team at the moment. I think we're capable of 9 points from those games TBH. Should definitely be looking at beating Hull, Cardiff and West Brom. Wouldn't expect anything from the Spurs or Everton games, but you never know - we've shown we're capable of beating anyone and losing to anyone *EDIT* Just looking at our next 7 games, I think we should be aiming for 15 points from them. Hull (A), Spurs (H), Everton (H), West Ham (A), Cardiff (H), WBA (A), Sunderland (H) 12-15 points there would set us up quite nicely for a very reasonable December period, having us on 21-24 points ahead of Southampton (A), Fulham (A), Man U (H), Stoke (A), Palace (H) and Swansea (H), which (if we carried over reasonable form from the previous 7) could well yield another 10-12 points, which would have us pretty much safe by January and able to look up instead of down. March is the only really horrible month we've got left this season averaging more tha 2 points a game for a run of 7 games is some pretty sh*t hot form for any team. If we get 12 points from those 7 we should be ecstatic. Edited October 2, 2013 by romavillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I actually think that our next set of games around about 6-7 are going to be very tough. I think Hull, spurs, Everton, cardiff or west brom can beat any team at the moment. I think we're capable of 9 points from those games TBH. Should definitely be looking at beating Hull, Cardiff and West Brom. Wouldn't expect anything from the Spurs or Everton games, but you never know - we've shown we're capable of beating anyone and losing to anyone *EDIT* Just looking at our next 7 games, I think we should be aiming for 15 points from them. Hull (A), Spurs (H), Everton (H), West Ham (A), Cardiff (H), WBA (A), Sunderland (H) 12-15 points there would set us up quite nicely for a very reasonable December period, having us on 21-24 points ahead of Southampton (A), Fulham (A), Man U (H), Stoke (A), Palace (H) and Swansea (H), which (if we carried over reasonable form from the previous 7) could well yield another 10-12 points, which would have us pretty much safe by January and able to look up instead of down. March is the only really horrible month we've got left this season averaging more tha 2 points a game for a run of 7 games is some pretty sh*t hot form for any team. If we get 12 points from those 7 we should be ecstatic. I agree, I think there might be some shock defeats in there. At which point the forum will naturally go into meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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