Chindie Posted February 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2018 Same thing they were doing online. Stuff that ticked Trump supporter boxes, and stuff to piss off Trump's base and create antagonism as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Excellent timing on the announcement I thought. 13 Russians indicted. It's a big "You wanna close this down now? Go on, I dare you to" Makes memo wars seem a bit irrelevant Exactly - and now Trump and his army can't keep bleating about it being a Democrat hoax made up because they lost the election. They have proved the meddling by the Russian State. Next they will prove or disprove if the Trump team knowingly colluded with them. As much distaste as I have for Trump and his family, part of me really hopes that there was no known collusion. It will be very traumatic for this country if he has to get impeached. The US is very divided, even if that division was falsely created by Putin's KGB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted February 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: As much distaste as I have for Trump and his family, part of me really hopes that there was no known collusion. Nah. Let him burn in the fiery pit that he has stoked. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 Great Reddit mega thread there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Oooo we have Reddit embedding now? That's useful. I get most of my sources from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, TheAuthority said: As much distaste as I have for Trump and his family, part of me really hopes that there was no known collusion Based on everything so far, it surely seems more likely that utter idiocy and them being manipulated, plus kind of lack of awareness of "you're not allowed to do that" is going to be the finding. And then lying and covering up stupidity. I mean they're a bunch of absolute clueless clowns, really. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, blandy said: Based on everything so far, it surely seems more likely that utter idiocy and them being manipulated, plus kind of lack of awareness of "you're not allowed to do that" is going to be the finding. And then lying and covering up stupidity. I mean they're a bunch of absolute clueless clowns, really. I agree and that would be my guess. However the Trump family money tied up in property in various corrupt states with ties to Russia is very troubling. The conflicts of interest in the administration is staggering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, blandy said: Based on everything so far, it surely seems more likely that utter idiocy and them being manipulated, plus kind of lack of awareness of "you're not allowed to do that" is going to be the finding. And then lying and covering up stupidity. I mean they're a bunch of absolute clueless clowns, really. I'm not sure anyone's that stupid though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, I still think Trump being a useful idiot is not an unlikely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 I mean the level of stupidity we're talking here is:- Obama (and FBI) to Trump during the transition: Don't use General Kelly, he's under investigation for having illegal contacts with Russia Trump: Employs General Kelly Just one example of literally thousands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, bickster said: I'm not sure anyone's that stupid though 27 minutes ago, bickster said: I mean the level of stupidity we're talking here is:- Obama (and FBI) to Trump during the transition: Don't use General Kelly, he's under investigation for having illegal contacts with Russia Trump: Employs General Kelly Just one example of literally thousands Well, exactly. It’s a mix of utter stupidity, lack of awareness of you really shouldn’t do that” and all topped off with a monumental ego. 70 years of doing and getting away with whatever you want will lead to monumental stupidity when introduced into the complex nature of government....as we’ve seen. Plus he’s got a huge loathing of Obama’s for making fun of him at that press speech thingy 3 years ago, or whenever it was. And the appointing all his dumb lackeys and family... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, blandy said: Based on everything so far, it surely seems more likely that utter idiocy and them being manipulated, plus kind of lack of awareness of "you're not allowed to do that" is going to be the finding. And then lying and covering up stupidity. I mean they're a bunch of absolute clueless clowns, really. "Hanlon's razor" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, bickster said: I mean the level of stupidity we're talking here is:- Obama (and FBI) to Trump during the transition: Don't use General Kelly, he's under investigation for having illegal contacts with Russia Trump: Employs General Kelly Just one example of literally thousands He's not as clever as he thinks he is, but he's not as stupid as he looks. He thinks he's untouchable though. And he's not. He WILL be taken down for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: He's not as clever as he thinks he is, but he's not as stupid as he looks. He thinks he's untouchable though. And he's not. He WILL be taken down for this. What I'm not clear on is this: If the Mueller investigation finds Trump or his family have committed a crime but it's not related to the election what happens then? Say they find some financial crimes from about 5 years ago will the DOJ go ahead and prosecute or will it be deemed outside the remit of the special prosecutor? Ultimately I guess it's Jeff Session's decision - can he decide not to prosecute at his own discretion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Cringe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Stay classy Donald, stay classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 18, 2018 notice its no longer a hoax any more though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 18:48, TheAuthority said: What I'm not clear on is this: If the Mueller investigation finds Trump or his family have committed a crime but it's not related to the election what happens then? Say they find some financial crimes from about 5 years ago will the DOJ go ahead and prosecute or will it be deemed outside the remit of the special prosecutor? Ultimately I guess it's Jeff Session's decision - can he decide not to prosecute at his own discretion? It might just be a matter of time, and results in November. If the Dems take over Congress, the first thing they'll do is impeach. GOP leadership will have no choice but to tell Trump to resign for the good of the party in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 9 hours ago, sne said: Stay classy Donald, stay classy. Another low point in our history. The President of the United States using dead children to take pressure off the investigation into his treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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