ermie123 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 was shit, is shit and will stay shit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 You know what they say "you cannot polish a turd, because a turd is just a turd"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Makes things happen, no-one else does. Should be playing. Anyone kept out of the team by Westwood and Cleverley must be seething. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Makes things happen, no-one else does. Should be playing. Anyone kept out of the team by Westwood and Cleverley must be seething. Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one but R.B you just pulled that one out of yours lol. Sorry mate I can't agree with you as this guy is a terrible player. Cleverley and Westwood aren't good enough either but at least they try to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Should offer him on a free just to get his 2.5m / 3m wage bill scratched off next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I don't think he'll play for us next season TBH. Surely there's some team in France that will take him on a season loan, paying at least some of his wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 1, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry to disappoint, but he is utter gash. He gets close to goal and shoots himself. If he played today, because it's against a former team, he'd try and take on everybody then shoot wide of goal. He did that all goal a few seasons ago. I think we played him to put him in the shop window and get rid in Jan - it didn't work, so he's not not first choice. One of Lamberts poor strategies was playing him. I just think he needs managing. Some players only perform with decent management, I would trust Sherwood to bring him in one game see how he peforms for him. N'Zogbia has only ever been a good player for a about 2 months. He's had numerous managers at numerous other teams apart from that and nearly always been crap. Its not bad management. Its a poor attitude coupled with not actually being very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry to disappoint, but he is utter gash. He gets close to goal and shoots himself. If he played today, because it's against a former team, he'd try and take on everybody then shoot wide of goal. He did that all goal a few seasons ago. I think we played him to put him in the shop window and get rid in Jan - it didn't work, so he's not not first choice. One of Lamberts poor strategies was playing him. I just think he needs managing. Some players only perform with decent management, I would trust Sherwood to bring him in one game see how he peforms for him. N'Zogbia has only ever been a good player for a about 2 months. He's had numerous managers at numerous other teams apart from that and nearly always been crap. Its not bad management. Its a poor attitude coupled with not actually being very good. As could be said for 90% of our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 1, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2015 Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Not really. Gabby, Weimann, Westwood, Bacuna, shall I go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 1, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Not really.Gabby, Weimann, Westwood, Bacuna, shall I go on.Westwood is one of our most consistent players, regardless of how high you rate him. So no that doesn't apply. Especially as he hasn't got numerous clubs and managers on his CV. Gabby is crap now but he's got more than 2 months of being good under his belt. So you've got 2 there. Although they still don't really match what I said as they don't have numerous clubs and numerous managers worth of experience. 90% of our squad would be about 27 names. So yeah, go on if you like. Edited March 1, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 N'Zogbia has only ever been a good player for a about 2 months. Make believe stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 1, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) N'Zogbia has only ever been a good player for a about 2 months. Make believe stuff.Is it? He's certainly never been good for us. And he's had 3 managers now. Are they all managing him badly? He was good for a little while under Martinez. That's it. So has everyone else who's ever managed him just managed him badly? Or is it that he's just not very good? Edited March 1, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You said "ever" or do you mean just while playing for Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 1, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2015 You said "ever" or do you mean just while playing for Villa? Ever. He certainly hasn't managed 2 good months at villa. He's only ever been better than average for a few months at the end of one season for wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 He;s always been a bag of shit, no end product, no football brain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) aside from the rubbish shot he did actually show some useful movement going forward and a very good cross I don't rate him highly I don't much rate Lowton either anymore, but both players moved forward and passed forward To be fair Cleverly did this also for the first time in a Villa shirt At the moment we need options ahead of Gabby and Weimann who are still both ineffective, so Sinclair, NZogbia and Gil have to be considerations, screw the past. Edited March 1, 2015 by VillanousOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You said "ever" or do you mean just while playing for Villa? Ever. He certainly hasn't managed 2 good months at villa. He's only ever been better than average for a few months at the end of one season for wigan I disagree with the 2 months ever point. I think that's just plain wrong. I agree he hasn't done well consistently for Villa but the same can be labelled at a number of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 1, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2015 You said "ever" or do you mean just while playing for Villa?Ever. He certainly hasn't managed 2 good months at villa. He's only ever been better than average for a few months at the end of one season for wigan I disagree with the 2 months ever point. I think that's just plain wrong. I agree he hasn't done well consistently for Villa but the same can be labelled at a number of our players. The point is he's never been consistently anything other than average. He may have shown glimpses here and there, but the only period of his career where he's been any good was that one half a season at Wigan. He hasn't been poorly managed at villa. He just isn't a very good player. And he never has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) When is he actually out of contract ? Edited March 1, 2015 by andyh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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