limpid Posted July 5, 2014 Administrator Share Posted July 5, 2014 Regarding Harris, again I do think his sentence is unduly lenient and I should suspect that it will be increased. I also don't think rehabilitation even comes into the picture in his case. That being said, I don't think he will or should spend it all in prison because of his age. I don't think this because he's old and frail, I think this because by having someone that will require that much high security together with that much care would be a huge drain on resources. Better to keep him in prison for a bit and then parole him with restrictions on his movements and all sorts of conditions. Basically like house arrest. That is still a big punishment as it effectively destroys the rest of his life but it also avoids costing the tax players a fortune. I disagree. The state has a duty to predict all citizens, even criminals. As a celebrity the cost of protecting him outside prison will be more than the cost of protecting him inside prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Paul C - I have found your comments in this thread to be utterly bizarre. He was not a "frail old man" when he committed these crimes, but unfortunately we cannot go back in time and retrospectively punish him. If only, perhaps a few less lives would have been shattered by the actions of a vile predator. So what is your suggestion? That if you evade the law for long enough you get some kind of special dispensation when it comes to sentencing? As I said, utterly bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 it's probaly my age but rolf being one of the pervy scumbags took me back a bit.learnt to swim cause of rolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted July 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2014 Did he help you put your trunks on too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Did he say if I blow on this it will help you float 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 only if he was at kingstanding baths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 it's probaly my age but rolf being one of the pervy scumbags took me back a bit.learnt to swim cause of rolf. have you got a favourite stroke? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) I've just watched an old peadophile documentary, it follows scotland yard on the hunt for peadophiles. It was very graphic and it took a lot of strengh to watch it. No matter how old a peadophile is he or she should have the maximum punishment, the things they do are just pure evil but they think they are so clever and they think the child likes it. After watching it, its made me so angry. Edited July 5, 2014 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72avfc Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Wonder how the public will respond if it is shown / proved that a former (deceased) prime minister was a known peadophile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Wonder how the public will respond if it is shown / proved that a former (deceased) prime minister was a known peadophile? She wasn't was she Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72avfc Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Wonder how the public will respond if it is shown / proved that a former (deceased) prime minister was a known peadophile? She wasn't was she Maybe just before her time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Bloody hell. Not Winnie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 only if he was at kingstanding baths Is that snooker hall still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 only if he was at kingstanding baths Is that snooker hall still there? i wonder as well.have'nt been round their in 35 yrs+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I only asked whether you had been trained in law because you seem to know a lot, and thinking that if I can't get it from what you had written then there really isn't any hope for me. I didn't mean to suggest that you can't have an opinion or anything if you don't have certain qualifications. I think the closest I came to understanding is the relationship between these to scenarios that you posted. If I (as in society/the law) tell you it's fine to do x then I can't (or shouldn't) come back to you afterwards and tell you that it's illegal. If I (as in society/the law) tell you that doing x carries a penalty of y then I can't (or shouldn't) then tell you the penalty is other than y. So maybe I'm on my way to learning a little something afterall. Just ignore him he wouldn't even know a decent wine if it smacked him round the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) I've just watched an old peadophile documentary, it follows scotland yard on the hunt for peadophiles. It was very graphic and it took a lot of strengh to watch it. No matter how old a peadophile is he or she should have the maximum punishment, the things they do are just pure evil but they think they are so clever and they think the child likes it. After watching it, its made me so angry.So is a peadophile someone who abuses vegetables? Edited July 6, 2014 by rjw63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 i just wonder how far this goes.by that i mean it could'nt just be a few tv/radio stars doing this.i wonder if others were involved(say judges,mp's and other notables).i wonder whether it is like the belgian scandal of a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I've just watched an old peadophile documentary, it follows scotland yard on the hunt for peadophiles. It was very graphic and it took a lot of strengh to watch it. No matter how old a peadophile is he or she should have the maximum punishment, the things they do are just pure evil but they think they are so clever and they think the child likes it. After watching it, its made me so angry.So is a peadophile someone who abuses vegetables? you could say that yes i just wonder how far this goes.by that i mean it could'nt just be a few tv/radio stars doing this.i wonder if others were involved(say judges,mp's and other notables).i wonder whether it is like the belgian scandal of a few years ago. every bugger is at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Why do most peadophiles have beards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I only asked whether you had been trained in law because you seem to know a lot, and thinking that if I can't get it from what you had written then there really isn't any hope for me. I didn't mean to suggest that you can't have an opinion or anything if you don't have certain qualifications. I think the closest I came to understanding is the relationship between these to scenarios that you posted. If I (as in society/the law) tell you it's fine to do x then I can't (or shouldn't) come back to you afterwards and tell you that it's illegal. If I (as in society/the law) tell you that doing x carries a penalty of y then I can't (or shouldn't) then tell you the penalty is other than y. So maybe I'm on my way to learning a little something afterall. Just ignore him he wouldn't even know a decent wine if it smacked him round the head Hey, that's low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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