Sam-AVFC Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 This thread makes me wish I was rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Been on a wait list for a number of different Rolex's for me and Mrs imavillan and just had a phone call to say this one is available for Mrs imavillan if we want it. Datejust 31 Have to let them know by end of play today, have to wait for her to get home to discuss first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, imavillan said: Been on a wait list for a number of different Rolex's for me and Mrs imavillan and just had a phone call to say this one is available for Mrs imavillan if we want it. Datejust 31 Have to let them know by end of play today, have to wait for her to get home to discuss first. I'm a firm believer of buying the watch that you want to own, but it's getting harder to ignore the financial upside of getting a Rolex from the boutique. Ladies watches have been easier to get traditionally than men's but, even now as in your case, it can take a while. I would buy it, as you won't lose money on it and it increases your purchase history and customer profile with the boutique. All assuming Mrs Imavillan likes the watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: I'm a firm believer of buying the watch that you want to own, but it's getting harder to ignore the financial upside of getting a Rolex from the boutique. Ladies watches have been easier to get traditionally than men's but, even now as in your case, it can take a while. I would buy it, as you won't lose money on it and it increases your purchase history and customer profile with the boutique. All assuming Mrs Imavillan likes the watch. Cheers, this is one of the one's that's on her wish list, ironically it's the cheapest one, lol. I can't buy one any cheaper on the resale sites like watchfinder etc and thats second hand, so going to go for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 Yes, go for it. It won't appeciate like a bloke's watch, but it won't lose money, and it'll move you up the pecking order with the AD. Plus that's a really lovely watch, and she'll enjoy wearing it I'm sure. And green dial watches are where it's at at the moment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: This thread makes me wish I was rich. It's just a hobby, you don't need to be rich. I know people who spend more on cigarettes a year than I do on watches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Risso said: Seiko do some superb watches. There are far too many models from over the years to say how long one will run without needing to be wound again though. You'd need to know what movement was in it, how old it was and what state it was in, ie how often it had been serviced etc. Overnight sounds like nonsense for most Seikos though. Thats what I thought.I posted here because I wasnt sure if Seiko has got like that ( modern tech going backwards ) or a load of BS. My uncle bought this watch in the 1980s,thats all I know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Risso said: Yes, go for it. It won't appeciate like a bloke's watch, but it won't lose money, and it'll move you up the pecking order with the AD. Plus that's a really lovely watch, and she'll enjoy wearing it I'm sure. And green dial watches are where it's at at the moment. Appointment is booked at the AD for pick up next Wednesday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 16 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: This thread makes me wish I was rich. You don’t need to be rich. About 40 years ago I decided I wanted to buy the watch that Buzz Aldrin wore on the moon. There’s 2 problems. It was the first watch worn on the moon’s surface and is therefore priceless. It disappeared on its way to a museum. So I decided to move towards that goal in tiny steps. Get an automatic watch of any sort. Get a chronometer. Get a watch that resembled his watch at a distance. Get an Omega. Get an Omega Moon-watch. Get an Omega Moon-watch from the 70s. Etc. Each time getting a bit closer to my goal. You can pick up some amazingly good new watches for £200. You can pick up old watches for very little. I have a pocket watch that was produced in the US during their Civil War. That makes it 150 years old. If you want it, I’ll sell it to you for £40. Old watches are generally cheap and unwanted. There were lots of them and very few people want them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: You don’t need to be rich. About 40 years ago I decided I wanted to buy the watch that Buzz Aldrin wore on the moon. There’s 2 problems. It was the first watch worn on the moon’s surface and is therefore priceless. It disappeared on its way to a museum. So I decided to move towards that goal in tiny steps. Get an automatic watch of any sort. Get a chronometer. Get a watch that resembled his watch at a distance. Get an Omega. Get an Omega Moon-watch. Get an Omega Moon-watch from the 70s. Etc. Each time getting a bit closer to my goal. You can pick up some amazingly good new watches for £200. You can pick up old watches for very little. I have a pocket watch that was produced in the US during their Civil War. That makes it 150 years old. If you want it, I’ll sell it to you for £40. Old watches are generally cheap and unwanted. There were lots of them and very few people want them. Great post. I don't know if I've mentioned this before (probably have) but I used to live in George Daniel's old house, the legendary watchmaker who invented the co-axial escapement that is in all modern Omega watches. He met Buzz Aldrin at a watch fair in Switzerland once, when they were both there to promote Omega watches. Local legend has it that Aldrin then visited Daniels at his home on the Isle of Man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: You don’t need to be rich. About 40 years ago I decided I wanted to buy the watch that Buzz Aldrin wore on the moon. There’s 2 problems. It was the first watch worn on the moon’s surface and is therefore priceless. It disappeared on its way to a museum. So I decided to move towards that goal in tiny steps. Get an automatic watch of any sort. Get a chronometer. Get a watch that resembled his watch at a distance. Get an Omega. Get an Omega Moon-watch. Get an Omega Moon-watch from the 70s. Etc. Each time getting a bit closer to my goal. You can pick up some amazingly good new watches for £200. You can pick up old watches for very little. I have a pocket watch that was produced in the US during their Civil War. That makes it 150 years old. If you want it, I’ll sell it to you for £40. Old watches are generally cheap and unwanted. There were lots of them and very few people want them. Agree with @Risso, that is a great post. Thanks! I know you don't need loads of money to buy nice watches, this thread just makes me pine after a lot of the ones posted. From what you've said about older watches I need to get trawling for some. Where would you recommend as good places to look? Car boots, ebay, second hand shops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: Agree with @Risso, that is a great post. Thanks! I know you don't need loads of money to buy nice watches, this thread just makes me pine after a lot of the ones posted. From what you've said about older watches I need to get trawling for some. Where would you recommend as good places to look? Car boots, ebay, second hand shops? Thanks for the kind words about my post. If you do ever stumble across Buzz's watch I'll give you £26 for it. The price of watches is still inflated at the moment. That includes what I would call lower range luxury. Before COVID I could get a 1970s Omega in great condition for £700. Now people want double that. Novice sellers vastly over estimate the value of what they are selling. That 150 year old pocket watch of grandad's isn't worth £10,000. Its probably worth nothing. I don't like sites like E-BAY. I want to hold the watch in my hand. The only exception is where its a specialise site with verified dealers who offer no quibble returns. Car boots, house clearance and charity shops can be fun. But these are the worst for overvaluing their items. When you offer the real value they think you are trying to rip them off. I are contact with any local jewelers who stocks second hand watches. That includes low end and high end. Go, have a chat, see what's there. They know that you aren't going to buy every time you go. But they will let you know if they get anything interesting. But here is the best option.....antique dealers. They are the perfect middle ground between car boots and jewellers. They know the rough value but rarely have the time or expertise to get it right all the time. They also need turnover. Haggle. If you see something you like but the price is too high, go back a month later. Make the same offer again. And again. And again. Get yourself a tool for opening watch backs and a small magnifying glass. They aren't expensive. Open every watch you are interested in. That Rolex case might have a Timex movement inside. If its a major brand, check the Internet for photos of the watch and the movement. Do they match? Find a decent watch repairer in your area. It might be worth buying a broken watch if you factor in repair. It might just need a minor repair or service. But find out the price of a typical service. Chrono24 is a good site to browse, look up prices and see what the watch should look like. Edited July 7, 2022 by Mandy Lifeboats Added details 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: Thanks for the kind words about my post. If you do ever stumble across Buzz's watch I'll give you £26 for it. The price of watches is still inflated at the moment. That includes what I would call lower range luxury. Before COVID I could get a 1970s Omega in great condition for £700. Now people want double that. Novice sellers vastly over estimate the value of what they are selling. That 150 year old pocket watch of grandad's isn't worth £10,000. Its probably worth nothing. I don't like sites like E-BAY. I want to hold the watch in my hand. The only exception is where its a specialise site with verified dealers who offer no quibble returns. Car boots, house clearance and charity shops can be fun. But these are the worst for overvaluing their items. When you offer the real value they think you are trying to rip them off. I are contact with any local jewelers who stocks second hand watches. That includes low end and high end. Go, have a chat, see what's there. They know that you aren't going to buy every time you go. But they will let you know if they get anything interesting. But here is the best option.....antique dealers. They are the perfect middle ground between car boots and jewellers. They know the rough value but rarely have the time or expertise to get it right all the time. They also need turnover. Haggle. If you see something you like but the price is too high, go back a month later. Make the same offer again. And again. And again. Get yourself a tool for opening watch backs and a small magnifying glass. They aren't expensive. Open every watch you are interested in. That Rolex case might have a Timex movement inside. If its a major brand, check the Internet for photos of the watch and the movement. Do they match? Find a decent watch repairer in your area. It might be worth buying a broken watch if you factor in repair. It might just need a minor repair or service. But find out the price of a typical service. You're a gent, I really appreciate the effort you've gone to here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 In case you missed it @Sam-AVFCI subsequently added a suggestion for the Chrono24 website and how to use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted July 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7, 2022 I got my Grand Seiko Spring Drive from Chrono24. It was a lot cheaper to buy from a Japanese dealer via Chrono24 than to buy something equivalent in this country from a mainstream watch purveyor. I guess there's a tad more risk but if it's hundreds or even thousands of pounds cheaper, and the dealer seems reputable... I had an excellent experience and would fully recommend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just as an example - Chrono24 currently has a Rolex Submariner Military Officers Watch from 1924. It's in rose gold and very good condition. That is listed at £5000 which I think is overpriced. But its a 100 year old Rolex watch in gold for a fraction of the price of a 2021 Rolex Submariner in steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I have a Submariner date 16610, I posted about it on here before. Bought it from a pal who was going through a divorce for 2.5k about 10 years ago. Supposed to be worth sub 10k now, if I was offered 7.5k I'd probably bite there hand off. It's just a watch to me, an I would just go out and by another nice watch and pocket a bit of profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I have a Submariner date 16610, I posted about it on here before. Bought it from a pal who was going through a divorce for 2.5k about 10 years ago. Supposed to be worth sub 10k now, if I was offered 7.5k I'd probably bite there hand off. It's just a watch to me, an I would just go out and by another nice watch and pocket a bit of profit. Sell it and pay for your underfloor heating 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just now, Xela said: Sell it and pay for your underfloor heating Just this second posted in the thread. We ain't having it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 My pal in London has 4x Rolexes now, I think. I was always a bit puzzled why he had so much money tied up in them. He's the one laughing now. Far better use of money than savings accounts/index trackers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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