Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 In and out of a long ball team with no attacking ability and on for 20 minutes to change a game where we had gone stale (today) if we write him off for that, we're prats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. Sensible, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. I have no expectation of him, or any other player who is clearly not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. I have no expectation of him, or any other player who is clearly not good enough. yawn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. I have no expectation of him, or any other player who is clearly not good enough. yawn..... Mature response. Do you think hes shown anything to suggest his good enough? At least Bannan, Herd, Weimann, Clark bring something to the table. A goal, a bit of bite, or a decent pass for a goal. (In some cases all three). Ive never seen Gary Gardner do anything. Ironically - the four mentioned above probably wont be good enough to be top half premiership players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. I have no expectation of him, or any other player who is clearly not good enough. was gonna post the same thing... i'd like somebody to tell me what his good attributes are.... genuine question coz i can't think of any... and im not just being a knee jerk arsehole i promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. I have no expectation of him, or any other player who is clearly not good enough. yawn..... Mature response. Do you think hes shown anything to suggest his good enough? At least Bannan, Herd, Weimann, Clark bring something to the table. A goal, a bit of bite, or a decent pass for a goal. (In some cases all three). Ive never seen Gary Gardner do anything. Ironically - the four mentioned above probably wont be good enough to be top half premiership players. Bannan, Herd, Weimman, Clark are all older and have had the virtue (barring Clark) of going out on loan before playing in the first team proper. I could understand you're point if it were Delfouneso, as he's been around longer, had chances and loans but still hasn't made the grade. As I said in the original post, he is still young and is excellent for the reserves but that's not going to improve him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Should have kept Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Way too much expectation on this lad already He's still physically maturing and learning his trade. He has talent but reserve games and bit part appearances will not improve him. Personally think he could do with a loan to the Championship for a season and get regular games. Then on his return, we'll see if he'll be any good. I have no expectation of him, or any other player who is clearly not good enough. yawn..... Mature response. Do you think hes shown anything to suggest his good enough? At least Bannan, Herd, Weimann, Clark bring something to the table. A goal, a bit of bite, or a decent pass for a goal. (In some cases all three). Ive never seen Gary Gardner do anything. Ironically - the four mentioned above probably wont be good enough to be top half premiership players. Bannan, Herd, Weimman, Clark are all older and have had the virtue (barring Clark) of going out on loan before playing in the first team proper. I could understand you're point if it were Delfouneso, as he's been around longer, had chances and loans but still hasn't made the grade. As I said in the original post, he is still young and is excellent for the reserves but that's not going to improve him now. Gary Gardners been out on loan. Coventry. Scored on his debut I think. Its because of Delfouneso and the majority of other young players we hype up and then who prove not good enough that I have that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForfarVillan Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 usually don't mind him but he was shocking when he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 And what has age got to do with it? Hes hardly decades behind them. If hes going to be anything to write home about, wed know by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Where was Carruthers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Where was Carruthers??[/quote Injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Where was Carruthers?? Injured. Ahh ok.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 And what has age got to do with it? Hes hardly decades behind them. If hes going to be anything to write home about, wed know by now. agree, we over hype our kids. the quality just isn't there....admittedly young up and coming players do blow hot & cold, but when they blow hot they have to show something tangible and effect a game they have to impose themselves and not just drift in and out. sorry, but thats what is required, anything less is just no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Well, the only positive, at least we aren't Liverpool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Was so poor today, think of all the times he had the ball only once did he not give it away. Should be loaned out to a Championship side for the season, might do him some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I've not seen anything from Gardner to suggest he will be anywhere near as good as his brother, let alone our Steven Gerrard. Shame as with all the hype about him I was pretty hopefull but he wont be the last youngster to come through our ranks and not live up to the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 He needs to go out on loan. We need to get another midfielder in. I think he is a good player but needs games every week and a full season will do him good, he won't get it here I feel so loan option would be best for him.. it will also help free up another midfielder coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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