Mantis Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Summer 2011 was a terrible transfer window for the club. McLeish and Faulkner really **** up. Edited February 21, 2014 by Mantis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I still can't wrap my head around the given deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 This is embarrassing. We buy you agree a wage, then say you can't play. We did it with seven or eight players, who is responsible for this !!? Ridiculous.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I still feel disappointed that both Hutton & Given would sooner give up on football than put in a transfer request. I suppose I understand it from a financial point of view but it is sad to see them not give a damn about playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Will be an interesting summer on here then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Good Job we had such a good plan to sort the mess MON left. Its worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 At least MON isn't the cop-out answer here. Only one pair to blame, those who - apparently - had us cost cutting at the time and still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoridge91 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well we all knew this was the case right? This is literally no surprise at all... Honestly if we're trying to get rid of him and we have younger players who can improve like Lowton & Bacuna in that position I'd rather play them than play someone like Hutton who is average 'just because' he is on 40k a week... Even if people consider Lowton & Bacuna average at right back the argument could me made that they'll improve whereas Hutton certainly won't... What surprises me is that he hasn't found a club even though Lambert has admitted he'll help the loan out on the financial side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well he can't add "and he's shit" because we're trying to offload him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Good Job we had such a good plan to sort the mess MON left. Its worked great. The 3 major McLeish signings we're almost as bad as anything MON did, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 In the past now, the club are trying not to get in this position again however, much it pisses off the fans.Next time your pissing and moaning we’re not signing so and so, Fulham have signed him **** Lerner blah blah blah look at them.In a few years time some of the players they signed this Jan will be in a similar position, on high wages doing not a lot for the club. They had to pay high wages to get them in during January...So remember that when your crying because we’ve not appeared on the Sky Sports yellow bar signing someone. It didn’t happen because we didn’t want to be in another Given/Hutton situation thats why!Hutton also allegedly beat up his own dad, so i defiantly have something against him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 this has been the case for that tit ever since Lambert came in, not even a little bit sorry for him, not even once. **** off from the club hutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Think he'll get a loan/transfer in the summer. I doubt he's on £40k/week and the journalist has added a fair amount to the real figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 We're not playing him because of his wages but doesn't he get the same if he was playing or not? Also would it not have increased the chances of selling him if he'd actually played? I can see why not many clubs want to sign a player who spent 2 years training with the reserves. Its just been one big **** up from the moment he signed. From the manager who picked him, to his agreed deal and so on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 In the past now, the club are trying not to get in this position again however, much it pisses off the fans. Next time your pissing and moaning we’re not signing so and so, Fulham have signed him **** Lerner blah blah blah look at them. In a few years time some of the players they signed this Jan will be in a similar position, on high wages doing not a lot for the club. They had to pay high wages to get them in during January... So remember that when your crying because we’ve not appeared on the Sky Sports yellow bar signing someone. It didn’t happen because we didn’t want to be in another Given/Hutton situation thats why! Hutton also allegedly beat up his own dad, so i defiantly have something against him! Haha so you use the signing of Hutton to defend future lack of signings to defend what Lerner may do. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 In the past now, the club are trying not to get in this position again however, much it pisses off the fans. Next time your pissing and moaning we’re not signing so and so, Fulham have signed him **** Lerner blah blah blah look at them. In a few years time some of the players they signed this Jan will be in a similar position, on high wages doing not a lot for the club. They had to pay high wages to get them in during January... So remember that when your crying because we’ve not appeared on the Sky Sports yellow bar signing someone. It didn’t happen because we didn’t want to be in another Given/Hutton situation thats why! Hutton also allegedly beat up his own dad, so i defiantly have something against him! Haha so you use the signing of Hutton to defend future lack of signings to defend what Lerner may do. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 In some ways with the form of Lowton this season why not use him if we are paying his wages anyway?? How is sticking him with the kids saying anything other than he is rubbish?? I know he hasn't been great but I don't understand this sticking them with the kids, we must have the most expensive development squad in the country? When we are paying him every week why not even think about playing him? Would Lerner rent a house and them sleep on the bench outside? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 So remember that when your crying because we’ve not appeared on the Sky Sports yellow bar signing someone. It didn’t happen because we didn’t want to be in another Given/Hutton situation thats why! Well that is one way of looking at things I guess. Another way would be to say we dropped a bollock by not signing so and so and paying him 40k a week as he has turned out to be another Milner, Young, Petrov, Carew, Freidel, Bouma, Laursen,Mellberg….. There shouldn’t be a one size fits all policy. We have been stung with some players not performing to the level to justify their high wages. However we have had others on 40k, 50k, 60k a week who have earned every penny. Just as it would be stupid to say all cheap signings won't make the grade it would be foolish to say all players on high wages will be no more than a drain on the clubs finances. One things for sure if we want to build a squad capable of getting back up in and around the top 6 then the standard of players we are going to need to do that will want to be paid the going rate and 40k+ will not be an exceptional wage. It is no coincidence that those sides that consistently finish with in the top 6, bar the very odd exception, will have the top half dozen wage bills in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 So remember that when your crying because we’ve not appeared on the Sky Sports yellow bar signing someone. It didn’t happen because we didn’t want to be in another Given/Hutton situation thats why! Well that is one way of looking at things I guess. Another way would be to say we dropped a bollock by not signing so and so and paying him 40k a week as he has turned out to be another Milner, Young, Petrov, Carew, Freidel, Bouma, Laursen,Mellberg….. There shouldn’t be a one size fits all policy. We have been stung with some players not performing to the level to justify their high wages. However we have had others on 40k, 50k, 60k a week who have earned every penny. Just as it would be stupid to say all cheap signings won't make the grade it would be foolish to say all players on high wages will be no more than a drain on the clubs finances. One things for sure if we want to build a squad capable of getting back up in and around the top 6 then the standard of players we are going to need to do that will want to be paid the going rate and 40k+ will not be an exceptional wage. It is no coincidence that those sides that consistently finish with in the top 6, bar the very odd exception, will have the top half dozen wage bills in the country. Yes but its also quite clear that we’re trying very hard not to be in that situation and have our fingers burned again.Its lose lose for the club, don’t sign anyone they’re in the wrong. Sign someone, fans happy for a short while if it doesn’t come off the club is wrong for paying them high wages.All transfers are a gamble, some fans forget on a very regular basis as they crave for transfer activity and ignore the actual impact it can have on the club in a positive or negative fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 So, we need to get the wage bill down. Could somebody explain how paying somebody £40K+ a week, and just bombing them out helps to achieve this? At least if he was involved somehow, we'd have a better chance of selling him. We really are run by a set of clowns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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