chrisp65 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Well I tried this thread a while ago and it quickly descended into a scrap. But now my nipper is doing 'the significance of Cromwell' so I thought I'd try and start it up again. So, the royal family, embarassing throwback? our greatest asset? a tourist attraction? wouldn't poke them with someone elses stick? no better alternative? something constant in a mad world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I don't care option? Well actually, the future King is a Villa supporter, then I'll care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 7, 2011 Moderator Share Posted February 7, 2011 The one thing the French did right in my view, would be happy to see the back of them. I'm very much anti monarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Posh totty are usually dirty so the Royals are OK by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 7, 2011 Moderator Share Posted February 7, 2011 As long as they can turn a profit then I've no big problem with them, they are a bit like a soap opera. Not sure about the hangers on though - how many do we pay for nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 i like em, instantly recognisable and easily the thing that you'd most identify us with, IMO no matter how shit the government get we've always got the queen, not like the yanks where they had bush as the tip of the sword and they looked stupid for it, italy the same now and egypt obviously, we have the world wide known and respected queen that said i dont read up or am i interested in the slightest about trying to find dirt on the royal family, no doubt a fair few people could tell me about how they are a bunch of out dated numpties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 all they do is add to our tax burden, get rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hey, we're getting an extra bank holiday, long live the (future) King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomzep Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 For me Im quite proud of them. Im not even really sure why myself but I cant help it. Theyre like living history that immediatly conjures up all the things I love about Englad even if they arent directly linked to them. I also like how they are a constant represenatation around the world. Nations change statemen all the time but we dont get many Kings or Queens in a lifetime, and that means they are recognised world wide and for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsboots Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I will never understand why a few select people will earn millions a year for free, don't have to work a single day in their lives other than attend functions and dinner parties, they also receive 24/7 security charged to the tax payer, and some ordinary people think it is fine and applaud it. "Tradition". It is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I'm very much a republican (though guillotines or basements are probably a step too far). I have nought against them personally but a monarchy (even an apparently solely ceremonial monarchy such as ours)? No thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitobrigante Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 to those criticising the money the 'few select people who earn millions a year for free', most including the Queen work very hard promoting the UK, are highly respected ambassadors abroad, and most improtant of all bring much more money into the country through tourism than they get it handouts... 'all the do is add to the tax burden'.....mental, although id maybe allow that one if only talking about Prince Charles, although even that nutcase has his good points with his charity work etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsboots Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 What about those members of the Royal Family who cost the taxpayers thousands of pounds in security fees, so they can go out clubbing, whilst being guarded by police officers etc? Are they worth it? I'm talking about those members who bring next to no tourism into the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 What is the point of the royals anyway apart from a tourist attraction ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I like Constitutional Monarchy as an institution and the continuity it brings to the British establishment. I personally couldn't give a flyer that our Head of State is unelected because of the cermeonial nature of the position, and given the frankly D- quality of most politicians and PM's since WWII, the idea of any of them being an elected President is frightening. At least you know where you are with Lizzie. I do believe in Democracy as an ideal but it's now fundamentally corrupted and unable to deliver for the people. It's hard not to think that we'd be in a far better place as a country now if she'd ruled as benign monarchial dictator for the last 50 years. On the flip side Cromwell was (imo) the greatest and most individually significant historical Briton. Enshrining the supremacy of the peoples' voice (I know that's carp these days, but it was the idea) in our system of Government was a great achievement. If you look at the turmoil most of the rest of the world has been through since Cromwell's revolution it takes some steady revisionism to believe that we didn't get our constitutional balance about right because of his actions. It's just a pity that since then we've struggled to find people who would govern with such high minded idealism. Gladstone maybe? Can't think of anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 "If you don't have a monarch then the President thinks he is the king." I'm not sure who said that first, but I kinda agree with it, and I kinda agree with what Awol said above me. There really isn't much that I am unhappy about with the current system, and comparing our royals to those who were overthrown in France or Russia is hugely.misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 8, 2011 Moderator Share Posted February 8, 2011 I think I'm the only person who has mentioned the French and I'm not sure anyone has mentioned the Russian (I may have missed it) In any case, I certainly didn't compare our royals to the French in any way so nothing misleading about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I was talking in general. It's not like this thread is the only place anybody reading this has ever discussed the monarchy is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 8, 2011 Moderator Share Posted February 8, 2011 No obviously. You post certainly read as if it was a reference to the content of the thread though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Who cares? They have no power, the monarch is only a figurehead and the bring money whilst maintaining one of our countries traditions that other people find interesting. A Korean guy gave me his condolences for the death of Diana the other day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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