AshVilla Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hasn't Lowton also played in every league win, we've had this season? And every draw? And every loss? Yes. He's on 9 yellow cards though, so we may be without him soon on a suspension. Bannan did not play in all the games in the first half of the season. Up until the Southampton game (22 matches) he started 14 matches. Bannan's record 5 Wins Swansea, Sunderland, Reading, Liverpool, Reading 7 Losses Everton, Southampton, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Wigan, Newcastle 4 Draws Newcastle, Arsenal, QPR, Stoke These are the results in the games he started. If we start Bannan, 31% time we win. Aston Villa Club record 6 Wins 14 Losses 9 Draws Club has won 20.7% of games this season, with and without Bannan. If we had started Bannan in more matches, and we won 31% of the time - like Bannan has done - we would have 9 wins, and be mid-table with West Ham, Newcastle, Stoke and Fulham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 What a stupid argument. What a stupid post. Well go on then. Explain why it's a good argument? Look forward to hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hasn't Lowton also played in every league win, we've had this season? And every draw? And every loss? Yes. He's on 9 yellow cards though, so we may be without him soon on a suspension. Bannan did not play in all the games in the first half of the season. Up until the Southampton game (22 matches) he started 14 matches. Bannan's record 5 Wins Swansea, Sunderland, Reading, Liverpool, Reading 7 Losses Everton, Southampton, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Wigan, Newcastle 4 Draws Newcastle, Arsenal, QPR, Stoke These are the results in the games he started. If we start Bannan, 31% time we win. Aston Villa Club record 6 Wins 14 Losses 9 Draws Club has won 20.7% of games this season, with and without Bannan. If we had started Bannan in more matches, and we won 31% of the time - like Bannan has done - we would have 9 wins, and be mid-table with West Ham, Newcastle, Stoke and Fulham. I shouldn't even be entertaining this point due to its total lack of sense, however surely you realise that : 1) You are forecasting your 31% win rate and applying it to games where Bannan has actually played a part only just didn't start a game? He has played in every game other than 4 this season... average points in games he has played = 1, average points in games he hasn't played = 1. 2) That taking a result set as small as 16 games and finding a peak and then applying this peak as the average across all results means the results are absolute nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 13, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2013 PRetty sure I read a stat that said Man City have gotten more points on average without Yaya Toure this season than with him. I imagine they'll never play him again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'm not a massive fan of Bannan, but he used to impress me on the odd occasion. I think he is a decent (maybe 'below average') squad player. I hope we keep him, just to make up the numbers in the squad, on low wages. I do prefer him starting on the bench than on the pitch, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 14, 2013 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2013 PRetty sure I read a stat that said Man City have gotten more points on average without Yaya Toure this season than with him. I imagine they'll never play him again. Lets hope they don't try to trick us into a swap. I'm fed up of signing all their shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 PRetty sure I read a stat that said Man City have gotten more points on average without Yaya Toure this season than with him. I imagine they'll never play him again. Maybe we should try to swap Bannan for YaYa in the summer? Seems like they would get the better deal. l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Using team statistics to make a point about individual players is always precarious . It ignores so many factors and variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Using statistics to make a point about anything, other than statistics, is precarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 For me he is still out of his depth and is still continuously gives the ball away in stupid positions and against better sides than Reading we will be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Using statistics to make a point about anything, other than statistics, is precarious! Please don't say things like that. It upsets a stats junkie like me more than you can imagine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VillanousOne Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 in a stable settled team not fighting relegation probably half our team would seem better than they are. to his credit Bannan seems to be technically quite adept in all areas (heading aside) and he works really hard, but he tries too hard, makes poor decisions at times and is too easy to push off the ball. Clark, Bannan, Herd, Baker, Westwood, Delph, Lowton where all not ready to become regular starters at the beginning of the season, most have learnt at a pace but at the expense of a massive amount of points thrown away. And this is not about age this is about time on the pitch and experience at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Con do you work for EA? Fifa 13 has predicted were going to win 3 - 1 with Bannan scoring the 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QPR is a very tricky game. They won't be short of fight and confidence. It will be more about the other B - Benteke - than Bannan. If he has one of his games, we can win, because he can score out of nothing. Bannan might actually be benched for N'Zogbia. I think they are now competing for the same place on left midfield, and who gets it depends partly on tactics. Delph's competing with Sylla for the midfield energy role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 QPR is a very tricky game. They won't be short of fight and confidence. It will be more about the other B - Benteke - than Bannan. If he has one of his games, we can win, because he can score out of nothing. Bannan might actually be benched for N'Zogbia. I think they are now competing for the same place on left midfield, and who gets it depends partly on tactics. Delph's competing with Sylla for the midfield energy role. Maybe the first of your 534 posts which we can agree on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Well played. Another victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Completely woeful first half cost us a goal with not much improvement in the 2nd needs replacing in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Completely woeful first half cost us a goal with not much improvement in the 2nd needs replacing in the summer You're taking the piss now. That was all Bennett's fault and no one elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Did a job in place of Delph.. Edited March 16, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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